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/int/ 35004986: European Union Declares War on Internet Free Speech

sementiy Avatar
sementiy:#35004986

The European Union (EU), in partnership with Facebook, Twitter, YouTube and Microsoft, has unveiled a "code of conduct" to combat the spread of "illegal hate speech" online in Europe.

Opponents counter that the initiative amounts to an assault on free speech in Europe. They say that the European Union's definition of "hate speech" and "incitement to violence" is so vague that it could include virtually anything deemed politically incorrect by European authorities, including criticism of mass migration, Islam or even the EU itself.

"By deciding that 'xenophobic' comment in reaction to the crisis is also 'racist,' Facebook has made the view of the majority of the European people... into 'racist' views, and so is condemning the majority of Europeans as 'racist.'"
http://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/8189/social-media-censorship

How long until casey is shut down?

samscouto Avatar
samscouto:#35005005

>EUcucks

tjisousa Avatar
tjisousa:#35005020

Welcome to 1985.

craighenneberry Avatar
craighenneberry:#35005029

Because its 1984

vocino Avatar
vocino:#35005041

Casey servers are located in the freedomlands.

abdots Avatar
abdots:#35005055

>>35004986
Never, imageboards are much too practical as a means of spreading government propaganda.

joemdesign Avatar
joemdesign:#35005087

Many European countries have had laws against Hate Speech for a very, very long time. This is not News. There is a perfectly satisfactory way to get around it by framing the discussion in an intellectual capacity, and parties like UKIP, as well as commentators like Pat Condell are examples of this. If you're upset you can't sit around all day and go FUCKING NIGGERS AND PAKIS ARE RUINING MY COUNTRY then it's not like you had anything constructive to add in the first place beyond boohoo tearchilde racism and you're taking the conversation to a shitty, nonconstructive place and damaging people like the aforementioned UKIP's ability to conduct itself without being targeted and dismissed by the Left. I don't agree with this, mind you, as I do actually believe that Free Speech in all capacities should be accepted. But again, this is not news.

safrankov Avatar
safrankov:#35005116

>>35005087
True Finn politicians have been fined here for hate speech even when they're been completely reasonable.

nicoleglynn Avatar
nicoleglynn:#35005138

>>35005116
Again, there has been a successful connection established between the legitimate concerns of parties who want to stem the flow of migrants and culturally incompatible people and people who sit around all day going I FOOKIN ATE ME SUM FOOKIN PAKIS and so long as the latter party continues to preach their hatred the Left will continue to wage an entirely fruitful and productive war against any and all nativist politics.

jamesmbickerton Avatar
jamesmbickerton:#35005144

>>35005087

It has always been up to the courts to decide what is and what isn't hate speech until now.

adhiardana Avatar
adhiardana:#35005159

>>35005087

How come both irish and scotish are more cucked then brits? One would thing both would still be strong conservative bastions.

cmzhang Avatar
cmzhang:#35005167

>>35005159

Conservatives are for this.

christianoliff Avatar
christianoliff:#35005170

>>35005138
Yeah but my point is that such laws intended to suppress the capslock example of yours can easily be used against the completely reasonable people as well. That's the problem of such laws. And yeah, you said you don't agree with those laws, but your post also seems to imply that anyone who is against this development is concerned because he can't shout nigger in caplock anymore when at least I'm more concerned about how the laws can be misused.

aluisio_azevedo Avatar
aluisio_azevedo:#35005198

Such silly laws would never fly here yet ridiculous Western organizations have the gall to say that we are not free to say whatever we want both irl and online.

hota_v Avatar
hota_v:#35005201

>>35005170
>can easily be used against the completely reasonable people as well
>True Finns
Lel no

agromov Avatar
agromov:#35005247

>The Internet is a place for free speech, not hate speech

sgaurav_baghel Avatar
sgaurav_baghel:#35005304

>>35005201
Well, I can give you an example of what one guy was fined for. Jussi Halla-aho wrote a blog post on the internet about the general hypocrisy in the media in which you can freely mock and insult Finnish people but you can't do the same with the minorities. One example he gave was how a famous Estonian writer basically said in some Danish interview how all the Finnish men are scum or something along the lines and media didn't seem to think that was a problem at all. Say the same about any other ethnicity and you get in trouble. Another point was that there was some genetic study that showed how a certain percentage of Finns have a "warrior gene" in them which makes them violent when they're drunk and that explains the high rates of homicides in Finland compared to the western European countries. For that, he said how if someone would find out that the Somalis, for example, had a gene that makes them more prone to crime, it would be illegal to say it out loud even if it was the truth.

The media picked that one line out of the context and published articles how a True Finn politician said in his blog that "Somalis are genetically more prone to violence". The politician went to the court for that blog and was fined for hate speech and was forced to remove that article from the internet.

bagawarman Avatar
bagawarman:#35005317

Who defines what hate speech is?

woodydotmx Avatar
woodydotmx:#35005358

Not being a shit-disturber was something people took for granted. Now it's something everyone does. Next it will be something you feel obligated and forced to do, not something everyone generally just does unconsciously

linux29 Avatar
linux29:#35005376

>>35005317
the party that makes the hate speech laws :^)

peterlandt Avatar
peterlandt:#35005386

>>35005317
The feelings of some anglo faggot with pink hair and severe mental problems.

seanwashington Avatar
seanwashington:#35005387

>>35005317
Comrade eurokomissar.

danro Avatar
danro:#35005403

>>35005386
>anglo faggot
It will likely be a nu-German.

cat_audi Avatar
cat_audi:#35005415

>>35005087
two words: yurop

jajodia_saket Avatar
jajodia_saket:#35005420

>>35005198
Reminds me of how Leonardo DiCaprio and a bunch of Green Peace assholes or whatever were protesting us building mines on the Amazon and Correa told them to eat shit and fuck off.
I despise how so many Westerners have this drive to tell other people how to live and guide their nations.

andrewgurylev Avatar
andrewgurylev:#35005431

>>35005386
>anglo faggot
except the anglos have very little power in the EU and want to leave because of it.
but you classify everything you hate as anglo

eloisem Avatar
eloisem:#35005441

>>35004986
> europe
> murrican companies
Yea nah

abotap Avatar
abotap:#35005447

But how the people allow this? How did Europeans allow their countries to become so pathetic?

And don't tell me "it's the media!" because I was surrounded by lusty people, depraved degenerates and basically amoral scum, both in real life and media.
According to this logic, I should be one of these, yet here I am a conservative who dislikes all these self-destructive behaviour.

Is my amygdala just well developed ever since I was a kid or what?

herkulano Avatar
herkulano:#35005451

>parroting racist insults and Russian secret service lies are free speech

illyzoren Avatar
illyzoren:#35005476

>>35005451
please die subhuman!

dwardt Avatar
dwardt:#35005483

>>35005447
media propaganda, if you get raised by tv and shows where niggers and faggots and other degenerates are considered normal people you might think this is normal aswell. Some get their angsty butthurt rebellion phase against parents and won't listen to them too and adopt a way of thinking opposite to them(ie conservatism)

kreativosweb Avatar
kreativosweb:#35005485

>>35005431
There wasn't even a concept of "White" until Anglos invented it.
t. not Anglo

murrayswift Avatar
murrayswift:#35005499

>The Gatestone Institute, formerly Stonegate Institute and Hudson New York, is a "non-partisan, not-for-profit international policy council and think tank based in New York City" with a specialization in strategy and defense issues.[
>Key people: John R. Bolton, Amir Taheri, Elie Wiesel, R. James Woolsey

What's the Gatestone Institute real leanings?

I don't buy non-partisan.

ninjad3m0 Avatar
ninjad3m0:#35005513

>>35005304
what the fuck

roybarberuk Avatar
roybarberuk:#35005523

>>35005492
Aren't they CIA and defence?

sindresorhus Avatar
sindresorhus:#35005528

>>35005020
>>35005029
The coming changes to make cigarette packs absolutely drab and all a sickly green colour will make these feel a little more truer than ever.

adammarsbar Avatar
adammarsbar:#35005540

>>35005499
They report Muslim bullshit

sawalazar Avatar
sawalazar:#35005560

>>35005476

t, Pegidatard

jodytaggart Avatar
jodytaggart:#35005581

>>35005499
The BBC? I just posted the first link http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-36427153

n_tassone Avatar
n_tassone:#35005602

>>35005441
They're American companies because there is no domestic alternative for them in yurop.

naupintos Avatar
naupintos:#35005607

>>35005485
thx for the update tim wise

yassiryahya Avatar
yassiryahya:#35005643

>>35005528
>cigarette packs absolutely drab

At least they don't post pics of sickly kids on them.

stevenfabre Avatar
stevenfabre:#35005660

[THIS POST UNAVAILABLE IN EU MEMBER STATES DUE TO THE HATEFUL AND/OR VIOLENT NATURE OF ITS CONTENT. ANY DELIBERATE ATTEMPT TO ACCESS CENSURED CONTENT WILL RESULT IN PROSECUTION TO THE FULLEST EXTENT OF THE LAW UNDER CONSPIRACY AND ACCESSORY GUIDELINES FOUND IN EU RESOLUTION #3648.]

darcystonge Avatar
darcystonge:#35005671

Its exactly just that, a code of conduct, it doesn't forces member states to anything, and its not a regulation towards ISPs either, ie there wont be sites shut down.

Social media sites were already removing hate speech if reported, this code simply urges them to do it faster.

Of course its shit, just dont exagarate to satisfy your emotional needs.

keremk Avatar
keremk:#35005675

>>35005671
EUcucks in full denial

buleswapnil Avatar
buleswapnil:#35005678

>>35005643
oh HO HO
You'd be wrong there. Pic related.

judzhin_miles Avatar
judzhin_miles:#35005697

>>35005304
Yes but this thing exists without EU and its a problem of society as whole.

EU or not if you start shittalking on some jewish organizations page here on facebook you will get instareported and prosecuted.

leandrovaranda Avatar
leandrovaranda:#35005718

>>35005697
I wasn't exactly criticizing the EU per se even though I hate it. I was talking about the problems with this type of "hate speech" laws in general.

thomasgeisen Avatar
thomasgeisen:#35005729

How do people not see the Orwellian about all this? Or do they simply fucking not care?

im_jsmith Avatar
im_jsmith:#35005736

>>35004986
Please liberate us america.

jqueryalmeida Avatar
jqueryalmeida:#35005762

>>35005729
Facebook already does this. Now they have collected gutmench point too.

langate Avatar
langate:#35005772

>>35005447
> But how the people allow this? How did Europeans allow their countries to become so pathetic?
Well tradition.
For example during the nazis you had no free speech, then you had the next dictatorship in east germany (well and actually partially in west germany too), and now we will have the next dictatorship without free speech. But maybe after the next civil war with the muslims we change the system, but I doubt that.

solid_color Avatar
solid_color:#35005775

>>35005736
It is american companies doing it ffs!

dwardt Avatar
dwardt:#35005813

>>35005703
I love this guy. If only there were more of him and less airheads and people who want corruption

olgary Avatar
olgary:#35005823

>>35005675
There you go, you can't come up with an actual argument just blurp out an emotional one liner.

Hate speech got you in trouble or the very least got deleted before, and outside of EU too. And your ambigious post could have been interpreted according to your opponents wishes too. That has been the state of facts since a long time.

What the EU wants here is to make this process swifter. The danger here is that if you make it faster it will become more non selective, hence why critiques warn about vagueness. This is the first of the problems here.

But it doesn't follow from the "code" itself that say kc will be blocked.. However there could be follow ups to this "code", which is the second danger, it opens up very troublesome future possibilities.

emileboudeling Avatar
emileboudeling:#35005853

>>35005041
>godaddy

I had no idea casey was so poor.

lightory Avatar
lightory:#35005874

.

jasontdsn Avatar
jasontdsn:#35005885

>>35005736
It is America that brought this upon us.

vigobronx Avatar
vigobronx:#35005891

>>35005853
Why would anyone pay for luxury servers to run a shithole?

anass_hassouni Avatar
anass_hassouni:#35005905

>>35005671
what does it matter that ISPs aren't involved if the EU is forcing the most visited sites on the internet to squelch views they don't like?

vickyshits Avatar
vickyshits:#35005909

>>35005885
lol

jffgrdnr Avatar
jffgrdnr:#35005922

>>35005853
they actually use a worse host than godaddy but cloudflare is in front of it

thomweerd Avatar
thomweerd:#35005937

>>35005909
Facebok isnt american?

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