I think the US needs to get rid of NATO, and form a new alliance. Who else wants in?
Nobody else should be allowed in.
Also, open borders between those countries.
Why don't we just get out, and go it alone.
Because not even Drumpf is as retarded as you.
Please, don't leave Poland alone. Our neighbours will kill us all again.
Why doesn't America just forcibly annex Western European countries and force them through a long campaign of cultural assimilation and enforcement of the English language?
They can even open the gate to various unwanted segments of American society to Europe while forcing large numbers of Europeans to move to the American mainland, permanently changing Europe's demographic composition.
Ireland can come if they leave the EU
Classic 4cancer thread.
how about we just ship the niggers back to africa and leave it at that
Build a moat along the Mexican border, you've just created Oceania
>Build a moat along the Mexican border,
half of it is already a river dummy
hop on board then, cunt
We do the most anyway and pay the most, we don't need them.
> to not just defend our best allies but our economic interests in those places.
Having bases abroad is like creating defences around your country. The potential enemy must first attack countries with bases inside before it decides to attack the USA directly in the future.
Is that why they're called wetbacks?
le anglo east asian alliance
i'm not a nigger tho
They'll only attack once. It better be a good one.
Kinda do need allies if you wanna continue controlling the oceans. Don't want to end up inward looking like other empires.
Can Netherlands join????
No we don't 'need' them but the Anglosphere is so close to us it's in our interest to keep them aligned to us.
Shitholes like Poland can fuck off though
Everyone complains about our bases. I say we close them and let them fend for themselves.
Yes but only because of William III
Netherlands je Anglo
If it was such a one sided deal they would've been closed ages ago
No please, we pay our fee. Don't leave us alone, we don't want to be under Russia. Not again.
> Shitholes like Poland can fuck off though
Why?! What did we do to you, faggot?
Poland has been one of the most loyal. I would be sad to lose them.
Why do they need Japan. Is even more kcmoded than germany.
> Why do they need Japan.
It is close to China and can be used to attack it
be butthurt and trying to drag us into wars
Cold war isn't a thing anymore, so Nato is basically a way of europeans to get USA to bankroll their armies. Pretty pathetic, instead of having an european force or something like that, they literally use Russia as a virtual threat way beyond the fall of USSR.
Best tech, strategic location
>Is even more kcmoded than germany.
They just voted to remilitarize last year
We're butthurt about Russia only, we love the US.
You must be Russian proxy.
If Russia attacked Poland, we would be steamrolled, not the USA, though. So in fact we don't want the war, but some US-elites would gladly earn on it, i bet.
It's inevitable, one day, Russia and Poland will be as one.
So we choose to be nuked then.
no, it's like a nightmare
I had a nightmare about Poland being part of Russia actually and it was horrible
Poland and Russia is just like Palestine and Israel, isn't it?
Same people fighting over something they can't remember.
Advance country, one of the most Pro-American, basically an island aircraft carrier. Close to China and North Korea, good location for economic purposes also. We should withdraw most of our military and let them rearm, but still be allies to counter any threat by china immediately. Oh I almost forgot about taiwan too.
Kek, i really had a dream about Russian occupation - Roosians kicked me out from my house, gave it to Russian settlers, put me to the train and transported to mainland Russia. They forced me to live in a crumbling wooden house with fecal stalagmites inside and work for 100 dollar 16 hours / day in factory producing nuclear missiles.
I wish there was a paradox-type game in a more modern setting where I can play as the US. Some post-WW2 grand strategy game at least.
> They forced me to live in a crumbling wooden house with fecal stalagmites inside and work for 100 dollar 16 hours / day in factory producing nuclear missiles.
Poland is a difficult choice, because it'll inevitably draw us into a war with either Germany or Russia, because of it's location. If you noticed, all of the others are either islands or on the American continent. As a Sea power, they are easier to defend, while Poland is tucked away inside Europe. I think we could have a mutal defence pact with Poland, but it'd be difficult to make it part of a large military alliance.
If I was the american political establishment I would demand european countries to follow my foreign policy, otherwise I would dissolve Nato.
Israelis and Palestinians are both expansive warmongers
Poland wants only peace, we don't want anything from anyone, especially any clay. It's just Russia that wants to conquer us and turn us into a shithole again and again, they have been trying to do it for 200 years already and we're fed up with it.
Russians know that their empire can't exist without Poland - subdued and turned into slavery. but we don't want to have anything to do with them.
Germany is irrelevant and peaceful, while Russia will drag you into a war even without Poland, it's in their genes.
Can we join new alliance?
American tier post, are you the /pol/ Aussie?
Poland wasn't a shithole when it was a part of Russian Empire.
Russia acts so frantically because it realizes its hopeless situation that can lead to disintegration of this country in next decade to come. Russia tries to improve its geopolitical situation through conquest - in the shadow of American-Chinese confrontation.
That's why i think that if Poland wants to go through this period without much risk, we should join nuclear sharing program.
How can one be a part of a shithole without becoming a shithole?
I don't even want to explain such things to you, because it's futile, Russians are retarded anyway and brainwashed by their propaganda.
Polen pls, you're basically proposing a "I'll bark, you'll bite" alliance because all you can ever do is bark. Alliances are not dog packs, they don't need that useless little fucker that starts barking at everything and aggros the whole pack.
Poles on kc are seem to be more brainwashed. Especially atlanta.
Poland is the best place to set up a military base in Europe.
Chile are pretty adorable. Can we invite them?
sure, because we don't believe in your propaganda no one in the world believes except for Russians
Poland is 5th strongest army of NATO though, and a country of 40 mln. We do matter in strategic calculations, especially considering the fact that we are placed in very important place of Eurasia - on the border between Rimland and Heartland. Everybody who has control over Poland has a privileged position in Eurasia and can project power against Western Europe without any obstacles.
>Everybody who has control over Poland has a privileged position in Eurasia
Looks like you are too stupid to understand rules of geopolitics.
Realistically and not roleplaying, I think Poland will be in our bloc in the upcoming conflict. Maybe some small countries in Continental Europe will also be on our side but none relevant/reliable. Germany won't join us. France will either refuse to join us or nominally join but be unreliable.
>the upcoming conflict
What upcoming conflict?
The final conflict
What upcoming conflict
Its an ends.
Russian agent tier
implying the countries in red couldn't beat russia + europe easily
Poles are funny. Looks like almost every slav nation have this "we are center of the world" mentality.
>no germans in this thread yet
I wonder why
theyre in the refugees thread
Poland is fucking important geopolitically, idiot. Everybody who controls Poland has a geopolitical supremacy in Eurasia. If the West controls Poland, then it can project power against Russia without risking war on its territory. If Russia controls Poland, then it can easily project power against the West. You got that? Poland is placed ideally on the border between Rimland and Heartland, that's why we always were an arena of big wars.
>supremacy in Eurasia
I can understand your point in case of Europe but Asia, that's just silly.
I am using 'Eurasia' term in purpose. Principle of combined vessels. Mackinder doctrine. If Russia managed to dominate Poland and then - naturally - Germany, it would make Russia a comparable threat to the balance in Eurasia as China is now - the balance wouldn't be destroyed only in continental Europe but in Eurasia as a whole.
> Poland is fucking important geopolitically, idiot. Everybody who controls Poland has a geopolitical supremacy in Eurasia. If the West controls Poland, then it can project power against Russia without risking war on its territory. If Russia controls Poland, then it can easily project power against the West. You got that? Poland is placed ideally on the border between Rimland and Heartland, that's why we always were an arena of big wars.
that's why all political divisions (partitions) of poland were always cutting poland in half....