I need to call and book a time to a therapist, but I can't do it. What am I even supposed to say in the phone? Pls halp
Don't call. Walk over there and make an appointment. For many people it's easier to speak in person than on the phone.
>step 1. call hospital mental health clinic/ wherever the fuck therapists are in suomi
>"Hello. I wanted to inquire about setting up an appointment with a therapist"
>supply them with information needed
>make sure you have a date and time you'd like to go handy, possibly an alternate date too
That's what I usually do, but this is such a hard subject for me that I don't think I could make the appointment face to face
Call them and say you need an appointment, if they ask anything other what is needed to make an appointment just say I'd rather speak to the therapist about it.
They shouldn't ask you why you need to see the therapist and if they do tell them its not their business. Failing that see if they have an email booking system.
"Hello, I want to book a time to a therapist"
They will eventually switch you to someone who can do that
>They shouldn't ask you why you need to see the therapist
They kinda have to because of IQ 89ers who don't really know if it's the proper place. OP could also go to his normal doc and ask for a transfer thingy
I don't think I have my own normal doctor. I'm calling the student healthcare shit that has its own number for mental problems, but I'm still struggling with the courage to call
You should get a normal doctor though :/
>struggling with calls
Oh come on Bernd, you did it before. You know as well as me that as soon as the other side picks up everything will go well :3
I tried it many years ago.
first therapist: "do you have a appointment through your house doctor?" "No" "then we can't help you"
second therapist: "are you privately insured?" "No" "yeah, we don't take state insured patients here, sorry"
third therapist (actually was the doctor on the phone, because his secretary was on holiday): "hello" "hello, this is bernd, i have following problems bla bla bla" "that sound indeed not good, i will have a opening for you in half a year, shall i give you a appointment?" "are you fucking.... no sir, everything is fine :3"
I asked for help, but didn't get it.
I since then exist and i am fine with the alcohol (lost also my job, because i can't be drunk on the workplace, went to get welfare money, people then were, why are you drunk, because life sucks, we can't give you money then, because you have to be fit for a job then i was going to a job, fucked it up, went back, now i actually get social welfare and not the shit "i have to do something for social money" bullshit).
all that because you couldn't wait for a few months ;__;
I first thought you were argentina ball and thought "shit, sounds bad in 3th world" but then I realized it was bavaria. Holy shit, how can it be that bad in Germany of all places?? Even here, as shit as it is, it's much easier than that. As an university students we have our own health care, which is much better and faster.
Anyways, I was able to do the call but it was just a machine that answered and I now I have to wait for a call back which just increases my heatenings
I had (have) a compulsive neurosis and it got worse in the workplace. I didn't want to lose the job so i begin to drink to subdue it which then actually cost me the job.
> I now I have to wait for a call back which just increases my heatenings
I know that feel, waiting for something you have no control over it and especially how the outcome will be.
But to secure you in your feelings, you did now everything what you could do and it is now out of your hands; don't think of it what could be, because the result of your worry will not decide anything. So in the end you can worry or not; it doesn't make a difference what the outcome is.
>Holy shit, how can it be that bad in Germany of all places??
Well, we have basic health care, that is right. But when you want something that is not "common", you have to wait or you don't get it, because it is private insurance stuff (or you pay for it from your own money).
Germany isn't really a social country; it pretends to be, but it isn't.
Not enough psychologists in Germany I think. It's also really difficult and expensive to become a therapist (5 years of Uni you need really good grades for + 3 years of training that costs 20k€ and takes thousands of work hours)
We have that Uni psychology stuff too but that's for students only.
>Anyways, I was able to do the call but it was just a machine that answered and I now I have to wait for a call back which just increases my heatenings
Interdasting, I never get heatenings from incoming calls, only outgoing. I also notice as soon as I have to make calls more often in some time period it gets way easier.
Damn, that's really sad ;__;
Do you still drink? Do you plan on doing some therapy in the future?
Well I got a lot in stake too, unless I can get a doctors certificate of having depression, my student monies are going to get cut 1.1.2018. Not a very good situation
The call itself probably isn't that bad, but the wait is killing me
just be yourself
I usually write all the words I will say.
Doesn't that sound really fake in the phone?
As the Bavarian said, it's out of your control so don't stress it. That's also why I only get heatenings when calling myself.
>Do you still drink?
>Do you plan on doing some therapy in the future?
HAHAHAH, i tried man, i tried!
Maybe i shall run drunken in the traffic and get injured so i get psychological help.
I don't know what i shall do to be honest.
I am just now sitting here and can't do anything, because NEET NG just "let me be", but i have dreams that i can't fulfill.
Only thing i would have is to be a croupier in a casino in Salzburg, but i don't like to be a cardmonkey.
try drugs and alcohol
It gets shitty overtime too. That's kinda my problem, everything just seems shitty, boring and pointless. That's why I'm just mindlessly spamming f5 in here too
You need to rotate the drugs you use. It has several benefits, because you neither won't get addicted nor get bored.
I don't want to do drugs, that is what fucks you up.
I am moderately drinking, so i keep my mind in order but can stop to be again functional.
Well try again please, even if you have to wait for some time. I mean you have to wait anyway NEETing so why not try therapy. Maybe those help helpers can somehow arrange something. Or do you want to NEET for the rest of your life? ;__;
>Only thing i would have is to be a croupier in a casino in Salzburg, but i don't like to be a cardmonkey.
Why not for starters at least? Casinos are very strict about alcohol while working there though.
I've actively used weed for years, tried LSD, ate shrooms several times, tried mdma like 3-4 times and speed a couple of times too. Other than weed, I never got the urge to use them regularly. MDMA especially was a disappointment, but I guess it was caused by my high weed tolerances transferring to it
Wtf? Even in Poland I only have to wait like a month
Nah, it's the same end result with all drugs. They're fun while you use it, but when your sober you realize the emptiness of life again and how the happiness caused by drugs wasn't real
I rather just wait until I see the therapist and see if it helps at all
I think there is more stigma in slav countries about seeing shrinks so less demand
>Nah, it's the same end result with all drugs. They're fun while you use it, but when your sober you realize the emptiness of life again and how the happiness caused by drugs wasn't real
So much this. All drugs are just happiness on credit, you always pay it back with interest.
I think it became normalized few last years, I know a lot of normie people who are in treatment
>last few years
well that's not much, here it is for decades already I think and there is more and more people with problems
waiting times in Germany vary a lot tbh from town to town, doctor to doctor and a lot of it is luck too
e.g. I once waited three months for a dentist appointment, then got the next one the day after
Well I ain't going to stop using drugs, especially weed which I'm addicted to, but even I realize that trying to use them as a treatment is sub 89iq