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/int/ 43461767: >Haplogroup N1* and N1c were both found at high freq...

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>Haplogroup N1* and N1c were both found at high frequency (26 out of 70 samples, or 37%) in Neolithic and Bronze Age remains (4500-700 BCE) from the West Liao River valley in Northeast China (Manchuria) by Yinqiu Cui et al. (2013). Among the Neolithic samples, haplogroup N1 made up two thirds of the samples from the Hongshan culture (4700-2900 BCE) and all the samples from the Xiaoheyan culture (3000-2200 BCE), hinting that N1 people played a major role in the diffusion of the Neolithic lifestyle around Northeast China, and probably also to Mongolia and Siberia.
literal founders of civilization

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haploproups threada

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hori shit man we wuz samurai

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can anybody tl;dr me the haplogroup thing? So Estonia has like 20% N1c, so what does that mean? That 20% of population has paternal ancestors who were chinks or is it that average Estonian has 20% of proto chink blood

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>>43461893
chinks were the direct paternal ancestors of 20% of the population.
if you had paternal haplo x and moved to africa and your male line was never broken, your ancestors in 10 000 years would still be haplo x but have like ~100% african dna

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Has Bernd seen the Russian research that says that Rurik was an ethnic Finn. Finlan is resposible for Novgorod and thus, Russia.

Ebin

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>>43461927
also haplos give information only on population scales, e.g. there is uralic paternal haplo in finland and baltic, but only typical euro maternal haplos, which means they inseminated the native women

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>Seima-Turbino phenomenon refers to a pattern of burial sites dating around 1500 BC found across northern Eurasia, from Finland to Mongolia, which has suggested a common point of cultural origin, advanced metal working technology, and unexplained rapid migration. The buried were nomadic warriors and metal-workers, travelling on horseback or two-wheeled chariots.

>It is conjectured that changes in climate in this region around 2000 BC and the ensuing ecological, economic and political changes triggered a rapid and massive migration westward into northeast Europe, eastward into China and southward into Vietnam and Thailand across a frontier of some 4,000 miles.[4] This migration took place in just five to six generations and led to peoples from Finland in the west to Thailand in the east employing the same metal working technology and, in some areas, horse breeding and riding.

>It is further conjectured that the same migrations spread the Uralic group of languages across Europe and Asia: some 39 languages of this group are still extant, including Hungarian, Finnish, Estonian and Sami.

tjisousa Avatar
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>>43461927
>>43461966

So any way to filter out your heritage percentage wise? This is done by 23andme and such yeah?

joynalrab Avatar
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Haplogroup N1c is found chiefly in north-eastern Europe, particularly in Finland (61%), Lapland (53%), Estonia (34%), Latvia (38%), Lithuania (42%) and northern Russia (30%), and to a lower extent also in central Russia (15%), Belarus (10%), eastern Ukraine (9%), Sweden (7%), Poland (4%) and Turkey (4%). N1c is also prominent among the Uralic speaking ethnicities of the Volga-Ural region, including the Udmurts (67%), Komi (51%), Mari (50%) and Mordvins (20%), but also among their Turkic neighbours like the Chuvashs (28%), Volga Tatars (21%) and Bashkirs (17%), as well as the Nogais (9%) of southern Russia.

>If haplogroup N1c, found mainly among Uralic speakers today, did originated in the Manchurian Neolithic, together with other subclades of haplogroup N, it would explain that Uralic languages are related to Altaic languages like Turkic and Mongolic languages and, more distantly also Korean, Japanese and Ainu, as Y-haplogroup N is indeed the unifying factor between all these populations.

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>>43461939
Gediminas was also haplogroup N so both East Slavic dynasties were Finns

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>>43462013
I think most N carriers here are N1b not N1c

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