Would it be fair to say that without Putin's strong and skillful leadership the Russian Federation would disintegrate into independent republics like the Soviet Union did?
No, even under leadership of fuking Boris the Yeltsin, the only Russian state that seceded was Chechnya.
Oh come on, it would be cool, imagine 200 Russias instead of one.
Yeah. Most parts of this land is abosluetly same shit, even where local population technically not russians. Only some caucasian and tatar republics cand do it, others - meh, don't really
> Russian Federation would disintegrate
And disarm. And that would be good for everyone including r*ssians themselves.
Which of them are "independent", i wonder?
Soviet Union was around ~50% Russian with some very large minorities. Russia is ~82% Russian with largest minority being 3.5%
european russia from Smolensk to Ural and Workuta-Astrachan would be better than this colossus on clay legs
tbh I don't care if they would live better or worse or all of them die.
I support Navalny because I hope that Russia would dissolve and disarm and it stop treatening Ukraine and other neighbors. And fuck off from occupied territories like Kuban' or Crimea.
Russia is 19% muslim.
We all see how parts of Russia live on Ukrainian example.
Without Siberia we'd be just poorer. And even less ethnically homogeneous.
It's true. So Russia will turn into Dark Ages. Horde times.
Ukraine's main problem was Russian influence and bullying before maidan. And now it's invaded by Russia.
If it wasn't bullied by russia it would be on level of Poland and Estonia.
Should increase it 2-3 times to get to European level.
you would still have a lot of oil and gas
tatarstan, arctic sea, caspian sea etc
Can't wait for the russian tribal wars after Putin dies.
Ukraine is so awful because of quarrels with Russia. For example Belarus isn't rich, yet it is 2-3 times richer than Ukraine and in some aspects even cozier than Russia.
That pic is cringeworthy. How many of the former Soviet republics have "normal life" different from Russia in a good way? Three?
But navalny want strong army and keep crime back
What he want is create powerfull nation with powerfull economy in current borders
Wat the fuck, it was too fat
Navalny called Georgians rodents, he is ultranationalist in not-so-well-disguise.
It didn't disintegrated even in 90s. So why should it now with oil prices about 70?
Also Russia after Russian collapse already exists. It is called Ukraine
Putin is a talking head. You can replace him with some else kgb guy nobody would notice. Like some Ivanov.
Russian balkanization will have the same effect as cutting crap into smaller pieces. The only upside is that these shitholes will surrender nukes.
Not really, 87% of Russian oil is extracted in KhMAO and YaNAO.
All of them. Every former Soviet Republic has better quality of living than Russia.
You're clueless about Russian economy. Yugra and Yamal alone are almost 60% of our oil and like 80% of our natural gas.
He is Ukrainian nationalist with Jewish mom.
>Navalny is of Russian and Ukrainian descent. His father is from Zalissia, a village in Ivankiv Raion, Kiev Oblast, Ukraine. Navalny grew up in Obninsk about 100 km southwest of Moscow, but spent his childhood summers with his grandmother in Ukraine
B-but his ministry of truth told him that "Putin is a Hitler of our time" and shit. Do you expect from any "free" worlder to see the whole picture, Tolyan my boy?
>All of them. Every former Soviet Republic has better quality of living than Russia.
Ukraine or Georgia lol?
Ukraine has visa-free, FTA, IMF help, functional democracy. It's much better place with better perspectives than r*ssia.
It just lacks resources and constantly under attack by r*ssia.
> functional democracy
As in constant zero function?
That's right, Ukraine has a culture of genotba, also it dug the Black Sea.
> r*ssian can't understand concept of змінюваність влади
If Tatarstan or Yakutia were independent, they would be among the richest countries on Earth.
It's when power is mined? Step on it, and it will explode?
Ukraine is a transitional democracy at best. Just like Moldova and Georgia.
It's don't, especially Tatarstan will fail hard compared to now.
>Ukraine has visa-free, FTA, IMF help, functional democracy
Wew,you know who else have those things? African countries.Debt is a wonderful tool.
Ask yourself why Poland hasn't entered the euro and is starting to refuse money from groups like IMF
Turn off your proxy, Russian shill.
Oh god, stop it.
Are you a real liberashka, or a putinist cosplaying liberashka?
>Ukraine has visa-free,
90s day demo without work permission. "Visa free" lol
That allows Ukraine only to export raws
Ukraine has denbts consisting 90% out of GDP. And since this year they have to start pay them.
Functional democracies don't have their Parliament being ruined by some street niggers.
>It's much better place with better perspectives than r*ssia.
Whole Russia would be full of NATO rockets.
Its really funny how Russians are okay with Muscowites being their masters
Nice. Without proxy your posts look more honest.
No Italian would say that rt-tier bullshit.
He's playing +15D Chess with us.
Yakutia has everything
oil, gas, diamonds, gold, coal and only 1mln population
And Northern Pole of Cold
There is no such thing as "muscovites". Moscow consists from people from all over ex-ussr. In my company there is not a single so-called "ethnic russian".
>visa-free, FTA, IMF help
none of these things are good, and only a completely illiterate churkazoid retard would say otherwise, which is exactly what everyone whos posts under a russball is
my fucking sides
east of ryazan does not belong to russia.
That wasn't my post even. Obviously ex-soviet republics which aligned itself with mordors live in shit.
Constantinople is rightfully Russian.
As Ukraine shows, quarreling with Russia isn't healthy.
t.never set foot on it
C'mon now,it's a known thing
Ukraine would do fine. Whole world supports it now.
All of our problems stem from trying to do business with r*ssia.
Before genotba grivna was 4 roubles, now it is 2.
Yakutia is an extremely underpopulated region with underdeveloped infrastructure that is very costy to maintain. It's an eternal federal budget leech despite all the resources, which in case of Sakha is just raw minerals that don't produce money supply on their own.
You're projecting memes about Yamal and Yugra on places like Sakha and Tatarstan only because they're not ethnically Russian states, even thought their economies are nothing like Western Siberia. It's 89 IQ. Please stop telling us about our country.
*before r*ssian aggression
also dictator burned all reserves in attempt to hold exchange rate then stoled billions and run to russia
>Ukraine would do fine. Whole world supports it now.
+ 7 hryuven
If russians didn't have the imperial vatnik ideology and superpower status to occupy their minds with they could actually focus on improving their nearest surroundings. Wouldn't it be great? Imagine 30+ small slav republics doing their small projects and just trying to be decent. If one republic sucked people would vote with their feet and simply move to another one, there'd be a incentive for actual improvement.
>4 years passed
>poperedniki stoled monies
Cockholes never change
>Ukraine would do fine
> Imagine 30+ small slav republics doing their small projects and just trying to be decent. If one republic sucked people would vote with their feet and simply move to another one, there'd be a incentive for actual improvement.
Such republics already exist
They are called former Yugoslavia
In the USSR Kazakhstan was a poor shithole, now it's richer than Russia. Yakutia would be even richer than Kazakhstan.
Ukraine did bad throughout all its nezalezhnost, but it did the worst under the openly Russophobic leaders.
>it's an eternal federal budget leech
Because their resources are being stolen by Russian companies based in Moscow.
>Mambetstan richer than Russia
Proofs that in USSR Kazakhstan was poorer than Russia?
"Russian aggression" just grabbed Crimea and Donbass. As you probably know, those are DOTATIONAL, so getting rid of them just helped Ukraine and added problems to Russia.
Without Moscow Yakutia will turn into plain taiga and tundra desert becuase nobody will give money for extraction of this resosurces
Yes, it is. It has higher GDP and people just live better. Astana didn't exist 20 years ago, now it's a thriving, modern city. Yakutsk would be like the capital of the world with this money.
No one wanted to live there and they had only one, poor city. After getting independence they built a new city from scratch. Russians would never do it for them.
I think poland need to get divided again for it's better future
>Yes, it is. It has higher GDP
So are all countries in the world, except most 89 IQs one (Ukraine, we are talking about you).
We've got three large Slavic nation states post-USSR. All three suck ass in different ways and feel like they manage their shit in the best possible way, while the others are clueless losers. This is how it works in reality, which is quite unlike your imagination.
And aside from Astana it is huge shithole.
That's nothing, for example Turkmenistan built a golden statue of a leader.
You know nothing about Kazakhstan of either Soviet or modern times. Let alone Sakha. Stop pretending to be an expert on Russia.
By the way, Kazakhstan exports ~3 times more oil per capita than Russia.
If Russia is so great why Kazakhs don't want to join Russia back?
No, Russians are over 81 % of population and don't live everywhere, apart from North Caucasus and Tuva
They joined all the unions Russia make.
Kazakhstan is afloat mostly because of oil. The only -stans that are not total hellholes are oil-producing Kazakhstan and gas-producing Turkmenistan. Sakha produces neither of that.
Whose works on the topic of Russian economy and Russian regional studies have you read lately?
Even more so, Kazakhstan has been the driving foce of the post-Soviet integration for the last 15 years.
Only ones who truly benefited from USSR collapse were Baltic states who honestly were always dragged down by USSR and super oil rich Azerbaijan and Kazakhstan
int wouldn't be int without such "trollfull" threads.
>>43468118 is right though.
West doesn't want Russia's dissolution, remember how in 90s they forced Ukraine and Kazakhstan to give up their nukes? They don't want to go over it again
Tatarstan is surrounded by Russia from all sides, also Tatars are only 52 % there and are outnumbered by Russians even in their capital, Kazan
You've got even lower IQ than him, lol. Do you measure poverty by the number of ethnic Russians in a given country?
How exactly did he "measure poverty by the number of ethnic Russians in a given country"?
Free Yakutia, Tatarstan,Yugra and Kavkaz
stop roosian leeches
Baltoshits changed their leeching from Russia to EU
Azeris and mambets are shitholes still
Kazakhstan was much, much poorer than Russia in 90s, now they are only slightly poorer, plus even though Astana and Almaty are richest cities there is no such income inequality like between Moscow/Petersburg and rest of Russia
Yakutia has gold and diamonds.
Kazakhstan was Russia-tier both in 90s and now.
Yakuts have weak national identity, did you know that they mostly use slavic names?
You can't get much from gold and diamonds, african countries have them too.
Africans are mostly dumb, Mongols are wiser.
Ukraine has healed from this, but they must get a boost
I think Chinese/asian brothers will help them
My family moved from Ust-Kamenogorsk to Novosibirsk in early 90s, it was like moving from third world to first world, but now Russia is only 10 or 15 % richer, many Russians still live in Kazakhstan and don't want to move despite state itself becoming more and more Kazakh
Russia same tier
Africa is robbed by the west, russian resources by oligarchs(jews)
Usmanov is jew from Uzbekistan, not muslim
Lisin also jew
rest on the list also majority jews
wut that? ww
That's why the best possible gf is Jewish. If you have a Jewish waifu, then there is a chance your grandchildren will be important.
Is that his real name?
I don't even know the guy but it took me 5 seconds to find you're wrong.
>Usmanov, who is Muslim, married Jewish Irina Viner, a top rhythmic gymnastics coach, in 1992.
Backup for Jews if Iran will nuke them.
It was created in 30s, before Israel
Yes, Russians like to be ruled by Mongols and Germans
Why would a Muslim marry a Jewish woman? Why would a Jewish woman marry a Muslim? The answe is - he is not a Muslim, but a Jew pretending to be a Muslim to fit in a majority Muslim country.
It's only Arab muslims who hate Jews, Central Asian muslims like Uzbeks don't have bad blood with them
That's the answer in your mind.
In reality Muslims and Jews do marry each other, espeically in ex-USSR countries where religioun plays a smaller role.
I can agree
I was in tel aviv 2 years ago, a lot of muslim-jewish women couples
arab/sudan muslim-jewish white girl