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/trv/ 1731: Australia

bouyghajden Avatar
bouyghajden:#1731

I am planning a trip to Australia in the next 6 months. I have around 1400 Euros saved up and will work in Germany until I have around 2500-3000€. I want to stay as long as possible, I dont know where exactly in Australia I will travel to, suggestions are welcome.
My questions are: What is a reasonable price for the flight (I will probably fly from Frankfurt airport)? Do I have enough money or should I save up even more? What are the daily costs for accommodation and food and other stuff? Which things should I visit? Any other tips?

iamglimy Avatar
iamglimy:#1732

>2500-3000€
HAHAHA, no!
You are going to spend more than half of it on your passport and flights alone. Accomodation costs depend on where you want to stay. You can sleep in cheap hostels for $100 a week. These are dorm rooms of course. If you want to sleep with more comfort in your own room or in a hotel there is no upper limit of course.

Groceries will be around 20-50% more expensive than in Germany, don't even start with alcohol or tobacco. The cheapest carton of beer (yes, it's sold in cartons there) is $30 for Oettinger. Australian beer starts at around $38. Cheapest bottle of vodka is around $28.

I suggest saving AT LEAST 5000€ and stay for a few weeks. Australia is not a country to visit just for two weeks. To get around without rushing it too much you need at least three months.

My favorite places are:
-Glasshouse Mountains
-Airlie Beach and the Whitsunday Islands (scubadiving in the Great Barrier Reef)
-Magnetic Island
-Wallaman Falls (and all the other Waterfalls in Queensland)
-Atherton Tablelands (nice camping there in the rainforests)
-Litchfield National Park
-Broome with Cable Beach
-Karajini National Park (very beautyful gorges)
-The Principality of Hutt River (second largest state on the australian mainland)
-Esperance
-Nullabour Desert
-Kangaroo Island
-NASA observatory in Canberra
-Nimbin (in case you're into smoking some nice pot)
-Outback in general (Savannah Way in Queensland, Kimberleys in WA, Nullabour Desert again)

I stayed in Australia for almost one year and have really seen it all (except Uluru, Alice Springs and Coober Pedy which is supposed to be really beautyful as well). I had my own car and a working permit so I could earn some money to regain all my expenses.

_zm Avatar
_zm:#1733

>>1732
>Karajini National Park

The fuck were you doing there? Most australians won't know about that place

>>1731
You'll need more money than that - Australia is a very expensive place to reach and to stay in.
Typically when travelling between europe and Australia, people will go through Hong Kong, Dubai, or Singapore with a few cheaper options available where you go through mainland China or Thailand.

You need to have something in mind in what you want to see, since the entire country varies as to what's on offer and the distances between places are huge. E.g it's an 800km drive from Melbourne to Sydney, a 4 hour flight from Perth to Brisbane, etc.

mylesb Avatar
mylesb:#1734

>>1732
I am humble, and dont drink much, so food and alcohol shouldnt kill my budget.
I know the flight costs around 1200 Euros, but as I understood, the visa is free (evisitor for 3 months) and the passport (Reisepass) would cost me around 40 Euros. Or what passport do you mean?

cmzhang Avatar
cmzhang:#1735

>The fuck were you doing there? Most australians won't know about that place
I really enjoyed nature and national parks in Australia. And I did all the travelling with my car (no flights at all). And it IS really really nice. One of the top 3 destinations in my opinion. (See photos)

And all the Australians kept telling me "Oh, you've probably seen more than most Australians did." Even those living in big cities have a 4WD because "One day I'm going to make a trip to the outback." But they never do.

>passport (Reisepass) would cost me around 40 Euros
+Photos
+International drivers permit (you really don't want to take a bus or one of these bloody expensive "outback adventures")

madhan4uu Avatar
madhan4uu:#1736

>>1735
Did you go to Wittenoom?

steynviljoen Avatar
steynviljoen:#1737

>>1735
What photos are you referring to?
I dont have a drivers permit, but I am with someone who has, so more money saved, I guess.

n_tassone Avatar
n_tassone:#1738

>>1736
No
>>1737
The photos I posted. I took them in the Karajini National Park.

Sorry for my bad english in the last post. I was eating while typing.

jasontdsn Avatar
jasontdsn:#1739

>>1736
I just read about Wittenoom in the wikipedia. Seems like they're more concerned about asbestos in the middle of the outback than they are in stores people visit all day.

shesgared Avatar
shesgared:#1740

>>1739
Because in Wittenoom they used asbestos for everything in the town. Even the gravel roads were made of the stuff.

>>1734
Don't underestimate the cost of food - something like lunch for one person at a cafe typically costs $20 in the cities. Fuel is another big cost; today I filled up my car and it cost $70.

tweet_john Avatar
tweet_john:#1741

>something like lunch for one person at a cafe typically costs $20 in the cities
OP should tell us more precisely how much luxury he wants. When you travel like a backpacker you just eat instant noodles, instant mashed potato and bread. That safes a lot.

malgordon Avatar
malgordon:#1742

>>1741
I don´t care for luxury, I would even cook my own stuff, so price>quality for me.

mfacchinello Avatar
mfacchinello:#1745

>>1742
Well we have Aldi in some places, which is cheap but shitty quality. Mostly our supermarkets are either Woolworths or Coles and they're semi cheap my last shop at one of them for a handful of things cost $100, and then there are a few 'premium' supermarkets which will be more expensive and have more imported stuff.

danro Avatar
danro:#1769

i don't get why so many young people in germany want to go to australia. to me it seems to seems the post annoying place in the world. first the long flight which is unbearable if you're in economy class then the heat + unfiltered sunrays, huge insects and poisenous animals, a large part of the country is deserted, the population consists of descendents of prisoners and ugly retarded aborigines and so on. i only would go there if i get paid for it.

aiiaiiaii Avatar
aiiaiiaii:#1774

>>1769
>the heat + unfiltered sunrays
It's not as bad in Germany because the air is more dry in Australia.

>huge insects and poisenous animals
This issue is so overrated by non-Australians. In Australia noone cares about it and it's not like the animals attack and threaten you whereever you are.

>a large part of the country is deserted
...which is cool

>the population consists of descendents of prisoners and ugly retarded aborigines
Oh wow, I see what kind of bloke you are. Better stay where you are.

kiwiupover Avatar
kiwiupover:#1775

>>1769
That's nice; we're full anyway.

a_harris88 Avatar
a_harris88:#1997

>>1769
What do we got here boys?
A German talking about another country's past...

aio___ Avatar
aio___:#2346

If you're in Sydney there's a nice place called Bankstown you should check out.

grantrobinson Avatar
grantrobinson:#2348

>>1997
What do we got here boys?
An Australiaball unaware of the implication of the word "past".
German in Australia infa 14/88.

Seriously though, I don't get the Aus/NZ thing either. Every German and his/her mother seems to go there, it really killed Australia as a near future place for me to visit, not for "too mainstream" hipster reason, but because I'd get sick of bumping into Germans all the fucking time. I know several people who managed to meet people they already knew from Germany down under, I mean c'mon...

craighenneberry Avatar
craighenneberry:#2387

If you like nature and awesome vistas:

http://www.scenicworld.com.au

If you like amusement parks:

Gold Coast, Australia (though it is heavyweight tourist trap).

If you enjoy feeling like you are better than other people:

Melbourne, Australia

m_kalibry Avatar
m_kalibry:#2414

>>2348
>I know several people who managed to meet people they already knew from Germany down under, I mean c'mon...
Happened to me, too. Just walked into the library in Darwin and met someone I went to school with. He was just like "Oh hi, what are you doing here?" as if it was the most natural thing to meet people on the other side of the globe by accident. And all the hostels are full of germans, too. Even in the middle of the outback (200km east of Broome) I met a german guy when two other germans broke down with their car.

tl;dr: Germans everywhere in Aussie-land.

urbanjahvier Avatar
urbanjahvier:#2428

>>2348
>>2414
Must be the places you go to, because honestly you don't encounter germans that often unless you go to somewhere like a german owned restaurant.

marcusgorillius Avatar
marcusgorillius:#2519

Well, I'm another Bernd who is planning to come to Australia for about 6 Months for work and travel.
I'm car-mechanic, finished my apprentenceship as the best from our region.

How much money would you recommend me to take with me?
Costs for flight and passport excluded.
How easy/complicated will it be to find a workshop where I could earn some money?

kuldarkalvik Avatar
kuldarkalvik:#2532

>>2428
do you ask everyone where they are from? often it is hard to tell who is german and who's not

emileboudeling Avatar
emileboudeling:#2539

>>1732
I'm leaving also for australia at the end of october, so i'm very grateful for this list, although i will only stay there for 6 months (hoping to see most of the things at the eastcoast) work and travelling.

I spent 1300 euros on the flight, shouldn't be that much. For my visit i got 3000 euros in total + the money i earn with jobs, Bernd, do you think it's enough to buy a little car and don't starve to death? Maybe any tips for the car?
Also i read, that it isn't that hard to find a job as work and traveller there, what do you think about it?

I'm so exicted about it and hope that my first week at melbourne won't be a disaster. Got any any tips for the first week for me Bernd?

last but not least, sorry for my bad english

-> Germanbernd

davidbaldie Avatar
davidbaldie:#2540

>>2539
>although i will only stay there for 6 months (hoping to see most of the things at the eastcoast)
Six months is definetly enough to see the east coast because that is the most boring part of Australia.
-one week Kangaroo Island
-one week Airlie Beach
-one week Magnetic Island
-two weeks Atherton Tablelands, rainforests and all the waterfalls
+four weeks to travel from place to place

Before I started, I wanted to head north from Brisbane (where I landed), then head east from Cairns to Darwin, then south through Alice Springs and then along the coast back to Brisbane again. Fortunately I changed my plans in Darwin and travelled down the west coast, which was the best decision ever.

>Bernd, do you think it's enough to buy a little car and don't starve to death? Maybe any tips for the car?
You need to pay at least AUD1000 on the car, everything else is crap. Check for oil leaks and ask for the age of the belts in the motor. They wear off way quicker than in Germany because it's much more dusty there. Basically check for everything because the other backpackers will try to rip you off. And while you are travelling also keep checking at least the pressure in your tires (don't forget the savety tire) and the oil levels of engine AND gearbox oil.

I learned more about cars in that one year than ever before. Fixing a leak in the engine coolant system in the middle of the outback, having trouble with shortages in the energy system, fixing the gearing of my front wheel suspension, etc. K-Mart has nice toolboxes for AUD30 that include almost everything you need. Of course it's not the best quality-wise but it will work for most cases. Also check for "supercheap auto" shops. They have cheap car parts and oil and whatever you need.

>Also i read, that it isn't that hard to find a job as work and traveller there, what do you think about it?
Depends on where you are and when you are there. If you just want to do farmwork, there is a book (can't remember the name) that tells you where they need people at what time.

>hope that my first week at melbourne won't be a disaster.
Melbourne is boring. I was there for just a few days. But I don't like big cities in general. I liked the remote places and national parks much more. But that depends on what you expect. Especially the young people are there mostly for parties and just travel from one major city to the other. In the end, they don't even see the places Australia is famous for.

trueblood_33 Avatar
trueblood_33:#2541

>>2540
Found it: http://jobsearch.gov.au/documents/nationalharvestguide.pdf

giuliusa Avatar
giuliusa:#2595

>>2539
I don't know if that'd be enough to buy a car, maybe really used one. Cars in Australia are much more expensive than in Europe.
In fact, everything is expensive in Australia.

I'm just visiting the UK at the moment and buying clothing and books because it's so much cheaper here and with a better range.

Also, Melbourne is cancer.
t. someone who lives in Melbourne

wiljanslofstra Avatar
wiljanslofstra:#2597

>>2539
Also don't worry about how bad your English is irl, since most Australians are skilled at interacting with Asians who barely speak English. Unless you're literally unintelligible, someone will probably figure out what you want.

snowwrite Avatar
snowwrite:#2607

>>2595
>I'm just visiting the UK at the moment and buying clothing and books because it's so much cheaper here and with a better range.

Are you even converting the currency? Almost everything is more expensive in the UK (lived there for ages). The only thing cheaper there is bloody painkillers and haircuts. Sometimes booze, but I generally found things were pretty much the same with the UK coming a little bit cheaper. For example, let's just take some basic things - in Australia you can get a can of tuna for like 99c (60p or something) but in the UK that same can of tuna is like 2 quid ($3.70 or something). Just basic stuff like that.

I'm so tired of hearing Australia is so expensive compared to the rest of the world. I've lived for long periods of time in both the UK and Finland, and both were much more expensive than Australia (with Finland being absurdly so - you want a burger? in Australia $2-3, in Finland equivalent of $10).

pf_creative Avatar
pf_creative:#2609

>>1732
HAHAHA, yes, coward!
he will have to work, but it shouldn't be a problem. just get a job and vacancy. ask sheep-farmers.

betraydan Avatar
betraydan:#2610

>>2609
>just get a job
Depending on the time of the year and where you are it is not that easy to "just get a job". Especially a job, that is not just fruit picking for low pay that's just enough for your expenses.

I met several people there who were desperately looking for a job because they were literally broke. They asked others to get access to a hostel so they don't have to sleep in the streets. You just don't want that to happen unless you have rich parents who can send you some money.

kimcool Avatar
kimcool:#2682

>>1735
Well, fuck. Now I want to go to the Northern Territory.

Carnarvon Gorge is a really nice place to visit, too. I went there for a few days recently and thought it was pretty god damn amazing. I wouldn't stay more than a few days though.

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