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/int/ 36503138: Apparently you're expected to be gay in Saudi Arabia as long as you don't identify as it...

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aio___:#36503138

“They’re quite shameless about it.” Talal, a Syrian who moved to Riyadh in 2000, calls the Saudi capital a “gay heaven.”

This is surprising enough. But what seems more startling, at least from a Western perspective, is that some of the men having sex with other men don’t consider themselves gay. For many Saudis, the fact that a man has sex with another man has little to do with “gayness.” The act may fulfill a desire or a need, but it doesn’t constitute an identity. Nor does it strip a man of his masculinity, as long as he is in the “top,” or active, role. This attitude gives Saudi men who engage in homosexual behavior a degree of freedom. But as a more Westernized notion of gayness—a notion that stresses orientation over acts—takes hold in the country, will this delicate balance survive?

kershmallow Avatar
kershmallow:#36503150

It was Russian-tier, and it was in Saudia.

tusharvikky Avatar
tusharvikky:#36503153

Now, there are some people who like the culture and parts of the Middle East are a haven for gay men – as it is a man’s world – though it is a bit underground. If that is your world then you might want to explore further but I don’t know that world. I went and left as a married heterosexual. If you are a single male, realize you may well live in that subculture and be housed and sometimes room with members of that subculture. If you are married, as I was, you are housed in different housing settings for married people and families.

http://www.teflteachertraining.com/blog/tag/teach-english-saudi-arabia/

antonkudin Avatar
antonkudin:#36503159

>>36503138
>but it doesn’t constitute an identity

Which is how it should be honestly.

slaterjohn Avatar
slaterjohn:#36503161

>calls the Saudi capital a “gay heaven

rcass Avatar
rcass:#36503204

I bet it was one of THOSE boys anyway

wahidanggara Avatar
wahidanggara:#36503293

Oh sorry here's the link to the original post's full article:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/305774/

“When I was new here, I was worried when six or seven cars would follow me as I walked down the street,” Jamie, a 31-year-old Filipino florist living in Jeddah, told me. “Especially if you’re pretty like me, they won’t stop chasing you.”

haydn_woods Avatar
haydn_woods:#36503406

They still need bottom gay right. Do they call the police after they fucked them?

scottgallant Avatar
scottgallant:#36503428

my boyfriend is actually half saudi

wahidanggara Avatar
wahidanggara:#36503463

I am 110% ok with this and don't see the contradiction with hanging faggots from cranes

joynalrab Avatar
joynalrab:#36503497

>>36503463
t. 85% heterosexual

albertodebo Avatar
albertodebo:#36503505

>guys, we need a positive article about saudi arabia, maybe something about hidden tolerance of gay subculture? you will become shill of the month.

ggavrilo Avatar
ggavrilo:#36503535

>>36503505
Criminals are still criminals even if they but fugg each-other in prison

liang Avatar
liang:#36503555

>>36503463
Same, Greeks new.
Women for breeding, boys for pleasing.

michaelkoper Avatar
michaelkoper:#36503625

>>36503463

Same.Being a homo and being a fag fruitcake are two different things.

buddhasource Avatar
buddhasource:#36503650

>>36503625
No difference. Both spread AIDS

carlyson Avatar
carlyson:#36503695

>fuck guy's ass
>no homo lol, praise allah

giuliusa Avatar
giuliusa:#36504663

>>36503138
>the fact that a man has sex with another man has little to do with “gayness.” The act may fulfill a desire or a need, but it doesn’t constitute an identity. Nor does it strip a man of his masculinity, as long as he is in the “top,” or active, role.

Sounds very Russian. Most Russians will agree to this attitude. Culture of prison rape.

vladarbatov Avatar
vladarbatov:#36509417

proofs there is nothing gay about wanting to fuck a cuteboy

bobwassermann Avatar
bobwassermann:#36509540

it's haram but it feels so halal

dutchnadia Avatar
dutchnadia:#36509596

>>36503406
Slaves, my man. They probably buy Slavic boys from orphanages and use them as sex toys.

johnriordan Avatar
johnriordan:#36509613

This thread gave me a boner.

BrianPurkiss Avatar
BrianPurkiss:#36509615

Toild you so, all muslims are gay, especially Turks. But y'all /pol/lacks were like "noooo, muslims will save us from homo degeneracy, it's haram and shit!"

linux29 Avatar
linux29:#36509640

>>36509615
>especially Turks
what did you mean by this

giuliusa Avatar
giuliusa:#36509666

>>36509640
All of you are flaming gay.

artcalvin Avatar
artcalvin:#36509672

>>36509666
we are not gay

christianoliff Avatar
christianoliff:#36509675

I should go. I love me some dark and masculine men

aluisio_azevedo Avatar
aluisio_azevedo:#36509719

>>36509672
Fucking liar. I lived among Turks for over 5 years. You guys are so gay it's hilarious, it's like out of a bad porno movie.

>50 year old Turk: "Hey, do you know MR XY? Does he live here?"
>Me: "Sorry, Dunno."
>50 year old Turk: "Ah, I see. Can I suck you off?"

Or how about the time when two kids asked me to star in a porn movie with them? No "There will be girls, too" does not make it more convincing.

Or how about the teenagers cat calling me (I'm a guy)? I have more stories... too many actually.

In b4 "They were Kurds!"

kurafire Avatar
kurafire:#36509747

>>36509719
>Or how about the time when two kids asked me to star in a porn movie with them? No "There will be girls, too" does not make it more convincing.
sounds like you are a gay

kuldarkalvik Avatar
kuldarkalvik:#36509761

>>36509672
You're almost as gay as Russia.

crhysdave Avatar
crhysdave:#36509769

>>36509719

>In b4 "They were Kurds!"

every time

katiemdaly Avatar
katiemdaly:#36509773

arabs literally live like prison niggers and it's permissible in their society

just think about that

Chakintosh Avatar
Chakintosh:#36509787

>this delicate balance
hmmm really made me think

pakhandrin Avatar
pakhandrin:#36509798

Yemenis are gay as fuck. I've been to Saudi too and the OP certainly rings true. Moroccans are massive homos and so are the Turks, who are so horny they openly proposition you in the street.

alessandroribe Avatar
alessandroribe:#36509799

>>36503463
>>36503625
>wog logic

necodymiconer Avatar
necodymiconer:#36509806

>>36509798
fuck off we are not gay

carlosgavina Avatar
carlosgavina:#36509807

>>36509761
russia is western, you dont have culture of cute boys there

christianoliff Avatar
christianoliff:#36509814

>>36509640
>>36509672
Yeh sure

karalek Avatar
karalek:#36509820

>>36509814
those are ottomans
not turks

peterlandt Avatar
peterlandt:#36509823

homosex is natural and rational. women are shit and guys can be pretty too

oanacr Avatar
oanacr:#36509832

for all intents and purposes, this is the average arab

someone tell me i'm wrong

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9WClv4U5B8

mikaeljorhult Avatar
mikaeljorhult:#36509834

>>36509719
>Or how about the teenagers cat calling me (I'm a guy)?

Where did that happen? I wanna move there. I might not be as hot as you but still.

adammarsbar Avatar
adammarsbar:#36509851

>>36509814
didnt the ottomans legalize homosexuality centuries before europe?

iamglimy Avatar
iamglimy:#36509869

>>36509798
> so are the Turks, who are so horny they openly proposition you in the street.

been several times to Constantinople and this has never happened to me, WTF WTF, WHY!

tweet_john Avatar
tweet_john:#36509887

>>36509869
they are lying

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#36509891

>>36509832
He is too black to be an arab.

thierrymeier_ Avatar
thierrymeier_:#36509902

>>36509887
>>36509869
damage control

haydn_woods Avatar
haydn_woods:#36509908

>>36509806
You are, really.

Everytime I spend my holiday in Antalya, there are twice as many homos who hit on me than girls.

mr_arcadio Avatar
mr_arcadio:#36509913

>>36509851
yeah

georgedyjr Avatar
georgedyjr:#36509919

>>36509887
but your guys are so fucking impossibly cute: petite, dark, skinny, cute faces.

gibe!

hibrahimsafak Avatar
hibrahimsafak:#36509922

>>36509891
You're u might have autism Ivan.

artheft_ua Avatar
artheft_ua:#36509929

>>36509902
where did teenagers cat call you? i demand to know

shalt0ni Avatar
shalt0ni:#36509961

But they are right, nothing wrong with fucking a feminine cute person who happens to have a dick. Only westerns don't understand this.

albertodebo Avatar
albertodebo:#36509987

You're all fucking degenerate faggots who will never have GF

it was arab tier and it was on KC

joe_black Avatar
joe_black:#36509992

>>36509961
> Only westerns don't understand this
we used to. Christians fucked everything up.

>The act may fulfill a desire or a need, but it doesn’t constitute an identity. Nor does it strip a man of his masculinity, as long as he is in the “top,” or active, role
sums up greeco-roman views of homosexuality

aleclarsoniv Avatar
aleclarsoniv:#36510015

>>36509987
t. ali

rawdiggie Avatar
rawdiggie:#36510026

Q. Did Islam create the conditions which cause Arab homosex, or does Islam merely repress what is already a homo nature?

teylorfeliz Avatar
teylorfeliz:#36510047

>>36510026
Homosexuality is a crime in islam

sketi_ndlela Avatar
sketi_ndlela:#36510051

>>36510026
Not all Islamic cultures are homopaederastic cultures, so I guess Islam's contribution to it isn't so big.

vocino Avatar
vocino:#36510052

[citation needed]

shesgared Avatar
shesgared:#36510057

>>36510051
> Not all Islamic cultures are homopaederastic cultures
just most of them

yehudab Avatar
yehudab:#36510069

>>36510052
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2007/05/the-kingdom-in-the-closet/305774/

p_kosov Avatar
p_kosov:#36510090

>>36509908
>>36509719
>no qt german bf to watch get buttraped by horny turks
bad feels man

syntetyc Avatar
syntetyc:#36510162

>>36503293
Very intradesting.
TFW no Saudi boypussy.

kamal_chaneman Avatar
kamal_chaneman:#36510167

So basically this.

mat_walker Avatar
mat_walker:#36510176

Confirmed for not gay

now how do I find a qt boy to fugg? Will I get aids from grindr?

judzhin_miles Avatar
judzhin_miles:#36510215

>>36510162
I know a Bulgarian who spent two months in KSA. When he told me "they're all gay there" I quickly dismissed it and said "nah, you don't understand Arab men hold hands blah blah, but that doesn't mean they're gay", then he told me how was propositioned several times, just like that, they see a pale foreigner (he's pale) and go up to him and ask him for sex.

I found it shocking but then I found that article that confirms what he's told me.

nelshd Avatar
nelshd:#36510255

>>36510167
All religions that cause repression do boy buggery.
Orthodox Jews and Catholic priests also fuck boys.

thomweerd Avatar
thomweerd:#36510256

>>36510215
This is exactly how it happens in Moslem countries I have visited and worked in.

donjain Avatar
donjain:#36510273

>>36510256
>worked in

for what pvrpose

stephcoue Avatar
stephcoue:#36510279

>>36510255
Men don't hold hands everywhere in Ireland or Spain and they don't come up and sexually proposition or assault you typically. Try going there and being Mr We Are All The Same.

aluisio_azevedo Avatar
aluisio_azevedo:#36510286

>>36510176
just go to local oil wrestling gig

christianoliff Avatar
christianoliff:#36510290

>>36510273
Have a fucking guess

areus Avatar
areus:#36510294

>>36510167
That's from Pakistan's Hidden Shame. I really liked the 'main character' - Imran.

joeymurdah Avatar
joeymurdah:#36510312

>>36510290
Weapons or oil drilling.

1markiz Avatar
1markiz:#36510346

>>36510294
Damn, what a qt. His asshole must be open wider than the Mangla Dam.

saulihirvi Avatar
saulihirvi:#36510351

>>36510256
I've been to Turkey (and briefly in Jordan, Syria, and Nazareth) but I've never been anywhere close to being proposed sex. And I really REALLY like Turks.

iamgarth Avatar
iamgarth:#36510354

>>36510290
english? oil? military?

edobene Avatar
edobene:#36510469

>>36510069
That article is actually really sad. I pity anyone who has to live in that horrible hellhole.

anjhero Avatar
anjhero:#36510470

>>36510346
I felt very very sorry for him, so much so I wanted to adopt him. They sent him to rehab because he got into drugs and was suicidal, at first he was going well but then he escaped and god knows if he's still alive :((

You should watch the documentary.

chris_frees Avatar
chris_frees:#36510493

>>36510346
Just how the fuck do you know about the Mangla Dam?? It's indeed huuuuge. Are you autistic or hydroengineer?

haydn_woods Avatar
haydn_woods:#36510511

>>36510470
>>36510493
I have actually seen it, there was livestram a few years back where bernds would show documentaries. It is very sad, true. And no, I'm just hyperautist my man.

cat_audi Avatar
cat_audi:#36510568

I thought everyone was like that. Are there men who never ever fapped thinking men? I would definitely have sex with a guy, but I do not consider myself gay. I don't see myself being romantically involved with a man, I'm against gay marriage and gay public displays of affection and homosexual propaganda etc.

buddhasource Avatar
buddhasource:#36510601

>>36510493
How do YOU know about it fgt? Do you travel a lot or are you just a curious autist with interwebs?

jonesdigidesign Avatar
jonesdigidesign:#36510627

>>36510568
That's Greek tier

gmourier Avatar
gmourier:#36510754

>>36510601
I didn't know about the Mangla Dam until that britpost above.

>>36510568
>I would definitely have sex with a guy

καλησπέρα

albertodebo Avatar
albertodebo:#36510944

>>36510754
>καλησπέρα
u homo?
show ass

keyuri85 Avatar
keyuri85:#36510961

>>36510944
Ναί, πούστης είμαι.

Sorry, I'm not taking a photo of that and posting it.

n1ght_coder Avatar
n1ght_coder:#36511050

>>36510961
:3
What's Bulgaria like for gays? Do buff Bulgars beat buggers black n blue?

andrewofficer Avatar
andrewofficer:#36511059

>>36510351
That must only be a thing in the Gulf countries.

pakhandrin Avatar
pakhandrin:#36511083

>>36510754

Τι κάνεις; καιρό έχω να σε δω ^^

mizhgan Avatar
mizhgan:#36511096

>>36511083
('ω')

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#36511120

>>36511050
I'm too assburger to know the "gay scene" as I don't have gay friends. Most of the homos are of the annoying flamboyant type, bleurgh.

And no, nobody gets beaten up here for being a fag, we're not savages like the Serbs/Russians. Fags are hated though and there's a deep rooted phobia amongst Bulgarian men "lest someone think I'm gay", we're nothing like the Czechs or Ukrainians who have a lot more relaxed attitude and you can easily find nice no homo guy to suck off or fuck you.

fffabs Avatar
fffabs:#36511144

>>36511120
>assburger bf
Cute. Cute!
This thread is now super homo. Bulgaria I want you to come over and discuss dams with me while we cuddle and discuss Visegrad Group politics.

kriegs Avatar
kriegs:#36511179

>>36511083
Θά 'θελα να πω ότι είμαι μια χαρά όμως δεν είμαι. Εσύ ποιά ελληνομπάλλα είσαι; Μου φαίνεται να έχει νέες τώρα εδώ. Κι εσύ πώς τα πας;

keremk Avatar
keremk:#36511204

Arab men here LOVE traps more than anything.

jehnglynn Avatar
jehnglynn:#36511206

>>36511144
I'm up for a meet, I've plenty of days off left for this year but I really don't wanna go to the UK.

How about Dublin?? Ryanair is to start flying there from Sofia in October and I wanna visit.

marcusgorillius Avatar
marcusgorillius:#36511212

>>36511144
>>36511206
film your fuggenings

mrzero158 Avatar
mrzero158:#36511243

>>36511179

Γιατί δεν είσαι καλά αγαπημένε φίλε; :(
Ούτε εγώ είμαι καλά αλλά πικ ριλεητεντ

canapud Avatar
canapud:#36511255

>>36509417
You got it wrong fatmaster, that's a grille with a benis, not a man.

karsh Avatar
karsh:#36511290

>>36511206
A-are you serious, senpai?

judzhin_miles Avatar
judzhin_miles:#36511339

>>36511243
επειδή η ζωή μου δεν πάει πουθενά

δεν έχω φίλους, τίποτε δεν μου κάνει κέφι, νιώθω αηδία προς όλα. απώς δεν αντέχω πια και δεν μπορώ ούτε θέλω να ζω έτσι :(

buleswapnil Avatar
buleswapnil:#36511350

>>36510279
That's because not everyone there is a priest. It's well-known priests are all faggots.

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#36511364

They still need bottom gay right. Do they call the police after they fucked them?

doronmalki Avatar
doronmalki:#36511381

>Nor does it strip a man of his masculinity, as long as he is in the “top,” or active, role.
Wow just like in Russia.

>>36509540
top kek

degandhi024 Avatar
degandhi024:#36511388

>>36511290
Going abroad is the only thing that keeps me somewhat alive, it's my way of escapism.

And I don't like going alone so yeah, I'm serious about getting to know new people and a bit of travelling.

Just so you know, whatever fantasies you might have for me I'm not not attractive or anything.

i_ganin Avatar
i_ganin:#36511402

>>36511388
Are you the cubeboo Bulgariaball?

antonkudin Avatar
antonkudin:#36511438

>>36511402
Shabat shalom :)

Ken, ze ani.

terpimost Avatar
terpimost:#36511479

>>36511438
I'd meet you here for a bier if I wasn't a hickikikori

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#36511493

>>36511388
I'm only playing with the whole lecherous thing. I'd actually be quite happy to meet you - I've always wanted to meet another bernd. But it wouldn't be October I'm afraid, as I'm working abroad then. Perhaps late November?

vicivadeline Avatar
vicivadeline:#36511503

>>36511438
Lama l'azazel sh'mishehu yehiye cubeboo?

ionuss Avatar
ionuss:#36511506

>>36511479
Are you the guy with a Bulgarian granddad?

jacobbennett Avatar
jacobbennett:#36511528

Is lesbianism rampant in Arab countries too?

emileboudeling Avatar
emileboudeling:#36511542

>>36511506
Not him.

n1ght_coder Avatar
n1ght_coder:#36511545

>>36511528
If you read the article posted here, it says yes. They're all filthy degenerates there, even the women.

mauriolg Avatar
mauriolg:#36511553

>>36511493
email me at [email protected]

Yeah, November should be OK too, I guess the weather in Dublin is equally shit all year round.

And I hope you won't stand me up for some silly reason, I'd feel so gutted going on about alone there.

keyuri85 Avatar
keyuri85:#36511594

I almost had gay sex with a student from the UAE but I had really bad diarrhea that day so I had to postpone but he never talked to me since ;_;

joemdesign Avatar
joemdesign:#36511648

>>36511553
ffs get a room you two

davidbaldie Avatar
davidbaldie:#36511657

>>36511594
>but I had really bad diarrhea that day so I had to postpone

#boisproblems

madebyvadim Avatar
madebyvadim:#36511689

>I've had a weird fascination with Israel for many many years. And I'll tell you something that'll make sound like a total fag but: I visited Israel from Jordan, when I got on the bus from the Jordanian border to cross into Israel and we reached the Israeli side where you can already see the Israeli flags I literally had tears in my eyes when I saw them.

That is a little weird, but whatever. Israelis do love their flags.

>A big part of my Israelboosim also derives from the fact that I like Hebrew very much, I'm a language autist and when I like a language I also get to like the country :S
Sadly here there's nowhere to learn it.

Why Hebrew?

Anyway, if you're serious about learning Hebrew, look into kibbutz ulpan programs. This one is probably best:

https://sites.google.com/site/maaganmichaelulpan/

You'll trade labor for room, board, and Hebrew lessons. I think it's free.

markgamzy Avatar
markgamzy:#36511691

>>36511622
Of course I meet people, like I'm talking to you right now.

remiallegre Avatar
remiallegre:#36511746

>>36511622
>I'll tell you something that'll make sound like a total fag
As if we didn't know that already x--DDDDDDd

ah_lice Avatar
ah_lice:#36511748

>>36511691
Frankly, you're all ghosts to me. You could all just be figments of my imagination.
You can only be sure of bernd's tangible existence until you meet them.

herrhaase Avatar
herrhaase:#36511755

This is so wrong for so many reasons.

motionthinks Avatar
motionthinks:#36511759

>>36511689
Those progroms will all cheat you, there were even cases where the people running it used it to get favors from blond Goyesses.

thomasgeisen Avatar
thomasgeisen:#36511774

>>36511691
I got the impression you're too assburger to meet people in real life.

>>36511689
Well, it's not about the flags, it's just that when I saw them I felt overwhelmed with joy of already being basically in Israel already.

I don't know, I just like some languages for what they are, Hebrew, Greek and Persian are my top favourite languages. I know someone who did the Haifa uni summer courses, apparently they're the best and I've thought about it but for the past few years I've sunk into a shitty depressed mood, I can't concentrate for shit and I've given up on all things I used to enjoy doing before such as learning languages for hobby.

I'll keep the link for reference though. Thanks.

albertodebo Avatar
albertodebo:#36511792

>I want to fuck guys but I'm not gay
same logic as kc

rangafangs Avatar
rangafangs:#36511799

>>36510469
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/3mzaep/this_is_my_story_on_how_i_survived_hajj_2015_as/
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/3mzcax/this_is_my_story_on_how_i_survived_hajj_2015_as/

necodymiconer Avatar
necodymiconer:#36511835

>>36511759
Yes, that's why I recommended Maagan Michael, which has an excellent reputation and is run by a kibbutz that's doing financially well so they don't need to screw the students.

I can't think of any other cheap option.

shadowfreakapps Avatar
shadowfreakapps:#36511845

>>36511774
>Hebrew, Greek and Persian
Srssly, what keeps you motivated into such a long term commitment as learning a totally language? What do you use it for? When you don't get to use it you forget it.

nicoleglynn Avatar
nicoleglynn:#36511888

>>36503497

>t. 85% heterosexual
The memories about the threads are coming back. I almost forgot about this guy.
He did porn movies for 1000€ where other me pissed on him, right?

rahmeen Avatar
rahmeen:#36511903

>>36511774
>. I know someone who did the Haifa uni summer courses, apparently they're the best

False. Hebrew University in Jerusalem is the best. Haifa is best for learning Arabic. Not even trolling

shesgared Avatar
shesgared:#36511959

>>36511845
I only ever managed to learn Greek on an advanced level, it was super easy actually because Greek is actually easy and I was literally obsessed when I was learning it. I never actually use it for more than talking to Greeks when in Greece and once you learn a language on some advanced level you don't really forget it, whereas I never learnt Hebrew or Persian so well.

It's just a hobby, something that I genuinely used to enjoy doing and the more I learnt it the more I wanted to dig into it, pretty much the only thing I have a talent for.

pjnes Avatar
pjnes:#36511973

>>36510346

>Damn, what a qt. His asshole must be open wider than the Mangla Dam.

meisso_jarno Avatar
meisso_jarno:#36512045

>>36511799
I'm reading this and holy fuck I'm disgusted by Muslims even if I'm not surprised

Why we have leftards on this planet that defend these subhumans is beyond me

alta1r Avatar
alta1r:#36512071

Everyday I see tranny threads and now this.
Lets face it, the majority of KC /int/ is gay. What a mess.

vikashpathak18 Avatar
vikashpathak18:#36512106

>>36503138

all sandniggers are gay - send them to labourcamp PAIN III b

syswarren Avatar
syswarren:#36512159

>>36512045
I got you covered, I have more rage inducing material: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmuslim/comments/4itbye/euro_exmuslims_to_what_extent_is_the_integration/

rahmeen Avatar
rahmeen:#36512172

>>36511799

what a dumbass, what did she expect?

i_ganin Avatar
i_ganin:#36512202

>>36512071
You are retarded, there are only a few people that post OPs and gay people espiecially like attention

layerssss Avatar
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>>36512071
I believe this thread has already established that fucking men isnt gay

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>>36512071
Purest form of love my man. Vaginas are messy and alien. Two bernds admiring each other's souls and bodies is totally not gay and is in fact a means to communicate with our inner Greek mentality, no homo.