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keyuri85 Avatar
keyuri85:#38547691

I can't believe so many people unironically supported this guy

xspirits Avatar
xspirits:#38547709

There was no other choice. My parents even voted for him.

samscouto Avatar
samscouto:#38547721

glorious choice

id835559 Avatar
id835559:#38547724

His electional procedure was illegal

soyeljuaco Avatar
soyeljuaco:#38547729

>>38547709
lmao

sreejithexp Avatar
sreejithexp:#38547739

I can't believe so many people unironically supported this guy

davidtoltesy Avatar
davidtoltesy:#38547752

By the time of yeltsindancing and other memes he had approval rating near zero.

But back in the late 80s - early 90s he was a charismatic anti-establishment figure, similar to Trump.

turkutuuli Avatar
turkutuuli:#38547768

>>38547724
even if he cheated the second time, he won fair and square before

nerrsoft Avatar
nerrsoft:#38547773

Russians often glad to transfer their responsibility to someone.

BrianPurkiss Avatar
BrianPurkiss:#38547774

>>38547739
He wasn't demogratig, no one needed to support him but NKVD

vocino Avatar
vocino:#38547779

>>38547739
He had good looks.

soyeljuaco Avatar
soyeljuaco:#38547783

>>38547752
>But back in the late 80s - early 90s he was a charismatic anti-establishment figure, similar to Trump.
That's the era I'm talking about

n1ght_coder Avatar
n1ght_coder:#38547785

>>38547691
I have no idea who he is but based on this gif I'd vote for him

freddetastic Avatar
freddetastic:#38547787

>>38547739
This guy is currently probably more popular than Yeltsin. Pidorashka, not even once.

thehacker Avatar
thehacker:#38547792

There are kcmods who still support him and glorify him as some sort of symbol of freedums.

jqueryalmeida Avatar
jqueryalmeida:#38547806

Americans hacked their elections

craigelimeliah Avatar
craigelimeliah:#38547812

>>38547774
So what? People can support chief even without elections.

garethbjenkins Avatar
garethbjenkins:#38547824

>>38547709
>My parents even voted for him.
It's funny because here I talked with many people from previous generations and no one admitted that their voted for Yeltsin but everyone like to yell how he and Gorbachev single handed ruined everything.

greenbes Avatar
greenbes:#38547829

>>38547739
He'd really stand no chance if the Soviet political system was open and democretic.

ryhanhassan Avatar
ryhanhassan:#38547835

>>38547812
But you can't measure it you dumb hohol, making it pointless speculation

kreativosweb Avatar
kreativosweb:#38547840

>>38547779
It's a fake photo.

linux29 Avatar
linux29:#38547875

>>38547824
15 years later Putler supporters will also all deny it

puzik Avatar
puzik:#38547892

>>38547779
He had a noticable Georgian accent and wasn't very good at delivering speeches. The only time he tried to travel across the country with a public campaign he got ridiculed by goddamn farmers.

sgaurav_baghel Avatar
sgaurav_baghel:#38547921

>>38547892
>The only time he tried to travel across the country with a public campaign he got ridiculed by goddamn farmers.
That explains the holodomor

lel, sounds interesting pls tell me moar/gibe link

jimmywebdev Avatar
jimmywebdev:#38547945

>>38547875
Of course. I always surprised how short memory people around me have. Now many people really struggle to remember events from middle 2000's.

1markiz Avatar
1markiz:#38547970

>>38547945
Banter aside, I've seen the same pattern everywhere. People rationalise their shitty decisions and lie to themselves all the time.

jehnglynn Avatar
jehnglynn:#38547994

Regions where most people live voted for commies. Yeltsin was voted for in Moscow (liberals) and depopulated regions like Chukotka where it was easier to fake votes because too few people to properly oversee the process.

vickyshits Avatar
vickyshits:#38548004

>>38547691
he was supported in short time frame actually

m_kalibry Avatar
m_kalibry:#38548014

>>38547970
Agreed

t. voted for Trump

souperphly Avatar
souperphly:#38548020

>I can't believe so many people unironically supported this guy
it's well-known that he lost the 1996 elections to Zyuganov, you know
it's just that Zyuganov was too afraid to push for his win

antongenkin Avatar
antongenkin:#38548022

>>38547994
Even if he cheated, he must have had like 30-40% at least. That's 29-39% more than he should have

ultragex Avatar
ultragex:#38548031

>>38548020
Yeltsin had bought off the military, if he'd pushed his victory it'd be a civil war he'd lose.

cmzhang Avatar
cmzhang:#38548040

>>38547824
My father told me that he had voted for Yeltsin, and then regretted it

stayuber Avatar
stayuber:#38548044

>>38548031
He also probably thought it's going to get shittier anyway and next time he'll win with 70% and Eltsin won't be able to cheat but great Putin came and fixed Russia with high oil prices

yigitpinarbasi Avatar
yigitpinarbasi:#38548051

>>38548040
Learning from your mistakers > DIN DU NUFFIN I SWER ON ME MUM

zackeeler Avatar
zackeeler:#38548058

>>38547970
May be but Russians are masters of this thing.
I mean when you said >15 years later Putler supporters will also all deny it
I almost giggled, 2-3 years at max.
This happened only 3 years after Stalin's death https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/On_the_Cult_of_Personality_and_Its_Consequences
and Putin are nowhere near Stalin at that moment.

BillSKenney Avatar
BillSKenney:#38548061

>>38548020
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gennady_Zyuganov
>Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros, along with Russian oligarchs such as Boris Berezovsky, Vladimir Gusinsky, Mikhail Khodorkovsky, Anatoly Chubais, and others feared a Communist resurgence in Russia while witnessing Zyuganov present himself as a kinder, gentler Communist while attending the World Economic Forum at Davos in 1996. Chubais recalled, stating "I saw many of my good friends, presidents of major American companies, European companies, who were simply dancing around Zyuganov, trying to catch his eye, peering at him. These were the world's most powerful businessmen, with world famous names, who with their entire appearance demonstrated that they were seeking support of the future president of Russia, because it was clear to everyone that Zyuganov was going to be the future president of Russia, and now they needed to build a relationship with him. So, this shook me up!" The oligarchs set aside their differences and held several private meetings in Davos hotel rooms, where they strategized over how to defeat the perceived Zyuganov threat. The result was the "Davos pact", an agreement between Chubais and the oligarchs that he would lead an anti-Communist campaign against Zuyganov, that they agreed to fund. The subsequent months saw a massive media offensive as "money poured into advertising campaigns, into regional tours, into bribing journalists", all supported by the oligarchs whom owned the major media. Yeltsin's subsequent victory in that election can be traced back to the events that took place in Davos between Chubais and those Russian oligarchs.

Somehow I've managed to dislike Soros even more

andrewgurylev Avatar
andrewgurylev:#38548097

>>38548031
it was 1996, the military wouldn't be the main factor since Army was half-dead, Yeltsin wasn't even sure about his closest entourage, like Korjakov (and he was right)
according to researches that were conducted (much later) among those who were close to Yeltsin in 1995-1996, he was paranoid about his "inevitable lose"

ffbel Avatar
ffbel:#38548117

>>38548097
>it was 1996, the military wouldn't be the main factor since Army was half-dead,
He did get them to illegally shell the Supreme Soviet 3 years ago. You don't need an army to be super-competent to shoot at civilians.

thinkleft Avatar
thinkleft:#38548126

>>38548058
Except Kruschov's speech about Stalin being evil was a closed session and it was kind of like half-secret. Kruschov obvsly did it for his own gain, he was himself part of the NVKD's troika, he just blamed everything on Stalin to deflect attention from himself.

There were riots in Georgia who were proud of having a Georgian in the govt and being upset that his legacy is dismantled: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1956_Georgian_demonstrations

So it's not like people change opinions every 3 years, it's more subtle than that.

joshjoshmatson Avatar
joshjoshmatson:#38548128

He is good, because he kicked Ukraine out and that allowed us to develop.

karlkanall Avatar
karlkanall:#38548130

>>38548020
>it's well-known that he lost the 1996 elections to Zyuganov
It's a meme.
Yeltsin's campaign was pretty effective during 2nd tour and motivated many people who didn't participated in 1st tour..

mylesb Avatar
mylesb:#38548150

>>38548061
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUaW5Dt5FMg&t=1s

We did not capitalism, but a fight against communism.
Each sold plant, (expensively, cheap, for free, with surcharge) is a nail in a coffin of communism.
We did it for formation of oligarchs, which will not allow the Communists to win.
And the election of 1996 is our victory

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#38548165

>>38548061

So essentially Yeltsin won because Western investors were drooling from a possibility to buy up USSR's natural reserves and Zyuganov would not allow it to happen.

mat_stevens Avatar
mat_stevens:#38548195

Do westerners really think he was all for freedom & liberalism or they just unironically enjoy our suffering?

iamkeithmason Avatar
iamkeithmason:#38548204

>>38548126
Everyone knew the "secret speech" tho

Moshe Dayan said USSR would collapse in 50 years when he heard it and he was right. If you shit on what Stalin built, then your successor will do the same with you.

Deng Xiaoping was very careful not to denounce Mao like that, said shit like he was 5 parts good 1 part bad and whatnot

trueblood_33 Avatar
trueblood_33:#38548279

>>38547921
It was 1928, he went on a campaign to promote bread tax on large farming households. Farmers were expected to donate a part of their harvest to the government in support of industrialization. So he went to Siberia, which was a stronghold of independent farming since like forever, especially since the 1900s reforms. At one point Stalin's delegation visited a village near Omsk, trying to convince the people how important it was to donate harvest to the state. And then a guy from the crowd shouts from to Stalin "Okay, how about you dance lezginka to us and then we think about giving you our bread". The crowd goes crazy. Ayy, lmao, look at him, a churka is begging us for bread, hilarious. Stalin's butt never recovered. During the next few years millions of households were robbed by the Communist party activists and forced into joining state-owned collective farms, the wealthiest farmers ended up in the Gulag camps.

freddetastic Avatar
freddetastic:#38548288

The single greatest thing the drunkard did was put Putin in charge.

justinrhee Avatar
justinrhee:#38548295

What would have happened if Zyuganov won? I'm curious about it, after reading the threda.

t. completely clueless about russian politics Russia is evul, don't forget

terryxlife Avatar
terryxlife:#38548304

>>38548279
>And then a guy from the crowd shouts from to Stalin "Okay, how about you dance lezginka to us and then we think about giving you our bread". The crowd goes crazy.
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marcusgorillius Avatar
marcusgorillius:#38548317

>>38548295
He couldnt win

Even shit rushka of 90s is better than commie rushka of 80s

souuf Avatar
souuf:#38548328

>>38548295
oligarch genocide

iamglimy Avatar
iamglimy:#38548337

>I can't believe

No one can. Expectly in Russia.

hota_v Avatar
hota_v:#38548345

He was a good guy, he led Russia in the right direction

Too bad that faggot Putin ruined it all

safrankov Avatar
safrankov:#38548362

>>38548345
Kill yourself!

ryandownie Avatar
ryandownie:#38548418

>>38547691
The Russian Richard Simmons...

i3tef Avatar
i3tef:#38548484

>>38547824
Decades of overspending on defense, economic mismanagement, antagonizing the rest of the world, and keeping the populace in poverty ruined everything. (Guess who's doing precisely the same thing now?) Gorbachov just happened to be there when the bottom fell out. Yeltsin took up the torch as best he could.

peterlandt Avatar
peterlandt:#38548505

I can't believe that someone unironically oppose this guy,

andina Avatar
andina:#38548542

>>38547709

There seriously were no other, more reasonable candidates?

krdesigndotit Avatar
krdesigndotit:#38548549

>>38548505

oskamaya Avatar
oskamaya:#38548600

>>38548542
Dunno I believe there was zyuganov and zhirinovski. Zyuganov was commie and therefore no one voted for him and zhirinovski was already crazy back then.