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/int/ 43460869: The leftists is right about religion The far right is ...

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#43460869

The leftists is right about religion
The far right is right about immigration laws
The capitalists are right about economic policy
The socialists are about healthcare and eldercare

Who should I vote for?

stayuber Avatar
stayuber:#43460905

sounds natsoc to me

markgamzy Avatar
markgamzy:#43460915

>>43460905
>atheist capitalists
>Natsoc
OP should vote for social democrats

Chakintosh Avatar
Chakintosh:#43460921

Real social democrats

sava2500 Avatar
sava2500:#43460922

reason

erikdkennedy Avatar
erikdkennedy:#43460928

Green

antongenkin Avatar
antongenkin:#43460957

Sounds like Japan.

saulihirvi Avatar
saulihirvi:#43461045

>>43460957
Japan is racist so it's bad. They need more african and middle-eastern immigrants.

bassamology Avatar
bassamology:#43461061

centrists

p_kosov Avatar
p_kosov:#43461125

nazbol

artheft_ua Avatar
artheft_ua:#43461137

>Tfw leftist =/= communists on the west, so whey calling retarded gay-lgbt-faggot lobbists and populist tier "greens" and other useless scum accepting capitalism "left", and calling "socialist" real leftists.
You are really became politicaly dumb there, guys.

kurafire Avatar
kurafire:#43461171

>>43461125
Dividing by zero tier party. Nationalism and socialism are different poles.

motionthinks Avatar
motionthinks:#43461183

So you're a social liberal who doesn't like immigration.

itsracine Avatar
itsracine:#43461236

>>43460869
Leftism is a religion, silly

mefahad Avatar
mefahad:#43461249

>>43461171
>Nationalism and socialism are different poles.
Absolutely wrong.
Nationalism is an ideology.
Socialism is an economic policy.

jimmywebdev Avatar
jimmywebdev:#43461284

Sverigedemokraterna and you know it. Stop teasing.

syntetyc Avatar
syntetyc:#43461314

>>43460957
Japan is conservative both socially and politically. Their biggest political party, Liberal Democrat Party(weird name considering how their ideology is a mix of conservatism and Japanese nationalism.), has been in power The LDP has near continuously been in power since its foundation in 1955, with the exception of a period between 1993 and 1994, and again from 2009 to 2012.

alagoon Avatar
alagoon:#43461331

>>43460905
>natsoc

And the biggeeest retard is from the U S of A. CONGRATS

pehamondello Avatar
pehamondello:#43461379

Vote libertarian.
> healthcare and eldercare
Poor people don't deserve it.

karsh Avatar
karsh:#43461385

If gods exist praying and worshiping them is pointless endeavor because it will not effect you in any way. just like denying god existence is also pointless waste of your time

Bernd Avatar
Bernd:#43461399

>>43461379
fuck off oligarch

bighanddesign Avatar
bighanddesign:#43461411

There is an obscure offshoot of national socialism called "strasserim".

If i had to make an analogy i would say they are the trots to National socialism stalinists which would be hitlerists.

Nazis dont like them because they are basically crypto commies.
Commies dont like them because they are basically crypto facists.
Its communism for white people only

n1ght_coder Avatar
n1ght_coder:#43461434

>>43461411
My face when my lecturer was a national bolshevik.

ademilter Avatar
ademilter:#43461443

>>43461411
there is fabian society

whats need for strasserists?

snowwrite Avatar
snowwrite:#43461489

>>43461434
nazbol is too confusing, stupid, and is basically strasserism except you also jerk off to russia a lot

vigobronx Avatar
vigobronx:#43461505

>>43461411
Didn't the Strasser brothers oppose Hitlers ethnic nationalism?

andina Avatar
andina:#43461527

>>43461489
Yeah, I know. It's a meme tier ideology, but I find it interesting in some way.

justinrhee Avatar
justinrhee:#43461555

>>43461489
Nothing confusing about it. "Stalin, Beria, Gulag - we would start reforms with that". Total war with enemies of Russia. Gulag for non-russian elements.

guischmitt Avatar
guischmitt:#43461578

>>43461489
replace hitler with stalin add russo-oriental elements

trueblood_33 Avatar
trueblood_33:#43461590

>>43461411
>>43461555
So basically what North Korea is doing?

keyuri85 Avatar
keyuri85:#43461593

Aren't Nazbols basically Stalinist who view Socialism in one country as a goal itself, rather than just a temporary "ideological necessity".

syswarren Avatar
syswarren:#43461600

>>43461505
Their ideas was that jews are bad because they are capitalists and should be removed, but so should the rest of the capitalists.
They said the hitler only did half a revolution.

And hitler killed all of these faggots on the night of the long knives.

eloisem Avatar
eloisem:#43461683

>>43461593
They're stalinists that see stalin as he was "russian hitler". Obviously retarded but still interesting conception.

giuliusa Avatar
giuliusa:#43461725

>>43461600
Well I may be wrong about Gregor, but Otto was openly critical of Hitlers antisemitism.

cmzhang Avatar
cmzhang:#43461796

>>43461725
>Strasserism (German: Strasserismus or Straßerismus) is a strand of Nazism that calls for a more radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism, hostile to Jews not from a racial, ethnic, cultural or religious perspective, but from an anti-capitalist basis, to achieve a national rebirth. It derives its name from Gregor and Otto Strasser, the two Nazi brothers initially associated with this position.

freddetastic Avatar
freddetastic:#43461809

>>43461249
>Absolutely wrong.
>Nationalism is an ideology.
>Socialism is an economic policy.
Absolutely wrong.
Nationalism is bourgeois ideology. It comes from bourgeoisie and pursues strictly bourgeois goals.

Socialism(In reality Communism, since socialism is it's first phase) is proletarian ideology and leads to classless society.
Both ideologies are related with economic poltics, otherwise they were useless.

That's why parties like National-Bolshevism, NSDAP or Liberal-Democratic Party of Russia are nonsense from political-economic point of view - they trying to sit on both chairs on public, but they pursue quite bourgeois goals, or have no specific goals at all, using a cheap populism to come to power.

m_kalibry Avatar
m_kalibry:#43461944

>>43461809
>Nationalism is bourgeois ideology. It comes from bourgeoisie and pursues strictly bourgeois goals.
Yeah that's why bourgeois import cheap labor from mudslim shitholes. Because they're huge nationalists lol.

terryxlife Avatar
terryxlife:#43461978

>>43461796
https://archive.org/stream/germanytomorrow019874mbp/germanytomorrow019874mbp_djvu.txt

In various parts of my Deutsche Revolution and in
numerous articles in the international press I have
expressed the utmost disapproval of the shameless and
inhuman anti-Jewish campaign that has characterized
the Hitler System; and I may also mention that as early
as 19283 in a party periodical, I protested editorially
against antisemitism of the Streicher brand, voicing the
war-cry, 'Antisemitism is dead. Long live the idea of
the People! 5

This advocacy of the idea of the People logically
implied the disavowal of any valuation of peoples or
nations as good or bad, as better or worse, since they
all have equal rights, equal needs, and equal duties, in
accordance with the will of the Creator, who gave each
of them its own kind, its own nature, and its own tasks.
This profound respect for organic life, and the fact that
it is necessary for us and incumbent on us to recognize
and maintain human dignity, imply that it will be an
unconditional part of the social and political organiza-
tion of New Germany to maintain the equal rights of all
human beings.

snowwrite Avatar
snowwrite:#43462039

>>43461600
Strasserism seems nice
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9kNQ36m7-M

jonkspr Avatar
jonkspr:#43462070

Vote with your heart, man!

Religion rights are much more meaningfull than stopping the help from those who need it.

abdots Avatar
abdots:#43462236

>>43461944
Historicaly nationalism was born in capitalist revolution with the goal to unite people and own means of production for accumulation of capital against other competitors. You just have to have a safe place to store capital, while plunder the other nations. You say "imigration". Did you think capitalists may do it to make society more nationalistic, creating an external enemy so they could cut salaries, raise taxes
etc, explaining that by struggle/spendings against/for migrants? Yes, capitalism (like communism) is international, but nationalism is used to keep own bydlo on a leash. Class differences are stronger than national.

sketi_ndlela Avatar
sketi_ndlela:#43462332

>>43462236
> capitalist revolution
delete your kc account

alv Avatar
alv:#43462484

>>43462332
Delete your education. Nations originate in the Renaissance with first bourgeois revolutions in Europe.

areus Avatar
areus:#43462534

>>43462236
>Did you think capitalists may do it to make society more nationalistic
Let's be more realistic here, international capitalists do it simply because they want cheaper labor and they would gladly completely replace local population with foreigners, that's what they're trying to achieve right now.

>creating an external enemy
Yes, by mass importing foreign bydlo from 3rd world shitholes. No immigrants == no external enemy.

>Class differences are stronger than national.
Not for me. I have no problem having fun with my ex schoolmates who become middle class richfags, even though I much poorer than them. I obviously don't want to have anything in common with central asian "proletarian" who cuts off ears for fun.

lisakey1986 Avatar
lisakey1986:#43462644

>>43460869
Just change them in 4-party system every 5 years.

franciscoamk Avatar
franciscoamk:#43462679

>>43462484
> first bourgeois revolutions in Europe
delete your account this is my final warning