why do europeans keep pumping money into tanks when airplanes and helicopters exist? Imagine how quickly Russia could take over Ukraine if they could just spam aircraft flown by farmers (trained on crop dusters) instead of relying on 20 mph tanks driven by chechens.
Europeans made war long before your country existed.
imagine what would happen whit modern technologies
they're stuck in the past and live on a tiny overpopulated peninsula
Planes are only good for bombing defenseless countries, you need tanks for conquering actual clay.
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[v] tanks are not needed
Vietnam didn't have laser guided bombs like everyone does now.
why do amerifats keep on pumping money into aircraft carriers when submarines exist?
They really aren't. Your government only invests in them because it's a cheaper alternative to investing in Su-47s. But even then they still fail when they are paraded around.
because we pump money into both
1) Su-47 is FAILED project
2) Tanks are the most important part of the land war
Russia might have T-90 and S-400 but do they have flying submarines?
land wars are primarily determined by air power, it's why we have big stealth bombers while the rest of the planet doesn't
> we have big stealth bombers
So what? Did they help you in Vietnam or in Korea?
The concept of the most effective weapons in the war contradicts the high-tech, the complexity of production and highly educated professionals.
This is an axiom.
We didn't have them in Vietnam or Korea, we had B-52s back then.
>The concept of the most effective weapons in the war contradicts the high-tech, the complexity of production and highly educated professionals.
Exactly which is why advances made to build things like the SR-71 or B-2 are implemented into use for normal aircraft like the 777 or 787. This is the entire point of NASA.
This shit isn't working tho.
Why there are no NATO soldiers on your street then?
There are NATO soldiers all over the (former) USSR in places like Estonia and Ukraine.
Did you know that NATO shall be closed after USSR collapsed?
> Had to be
but it wasn't, and now NATO occupies half of the former USSR
how does this make your feels?
Just feel that it's illegal organisation. Has to be destroyed with eu and usa forces i hope.
USSR was never illegal, Russians want it.
We don't talking about USSR.
And you say that it's OK to have ba military block against non existent country?
RUFD is just the USSR under a new name.
Even if it was true, NATO has no rights to exist.
Putin is a former KGB officer and only collapsed the USSR to force RUSR to build a better internal infrastruture which he has. Now Russia is big and strong so it can better influence/annex ex-SSR secessionists like Ukraine, Chechnya, Syria or Kazakhstan into their bidding. It was extremely effective and worked out great for Russians.
> Bla bla
Can you please not memeing but talking serious?
I am being serious. Look at how Russia now produces enough oil to sustain itself.
I know about Putin with his bodies are thieves. But still NATO have no rights to exist.
The Kremlin is stronger than ever, which is why everyone else in Europe wants to join NATO because Germany will happily hand over eastern europe to putin for the petroleum.
Are you drunk?
No I'm telling you how Putin and Merkel enjoy the sufferings of eastern europeans because they both profit from it. As it was with the Kaizer and the Czar.
So, it allows an illegal organisation to exist?
yes, because Russia is strong, capable and threatening to eastern europe. Just look at how your leader, a former KGB agent, is treating Nawanly.
Because tanks are cheaper to control 3rd world shitholes than drones and planes.
You can't even control a country with planes and drones. You need troops for this and troops need support by amored vehicles with tanks on the top of it. It's true that there will never be a big tank battle, but they are still important for the whole concept.
Are you stupid?
It is impossible to wage only with air power
This, infantry and armor win wars. Airpower can temporarily weaken the enemy but can never establish complete control of an area.
>Imagine how quickly Russia could take over Ukraine if they could just spam aircraft flown by farmers
Just like you did in Iraq and Afghanistan, right? Right? Ahaha.