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/int/ 44266531: We're fucked. There isn't even enough clay in t...

joeymurdah Avatar
joeymurdah:#44266531

We're fucked. There isn't even enough clay in the solar system.

iamsteffen Avatar
iamsteffen:#44266545

There's never enough of clay.

Russian proverb

likewings Avatar
likewings:#44266555

Well yes, Earth is the biggest solid planet in solar system.

bobwassermann Avatar
bobwassermann:#44266563

Who gives le fuck about space?

raquelwilson Avatar
raquelwilson:#44266566

If we sent the niggers to the moon, we could double the available land

canapud Avatar
canapud:#44266574

>colonizing planets
IQ89 idea

jitachi Avatar
jitachi:#44266577

>>44266563
I want to escape and live somewhere free from niggers and slavs

kiwiupover Avatar
kiwiupover:#44266587

That's actually pretty decent.

guischmitt Avatar
guischmitt:#44266609

>>44266531
Before we have filled the solar system up we will have figured out interstellar travel.

ryanmclaughlin Avatar
ryanmclaughlin:#44266629

>>44266587
What about if all people would live as densely as average in Mongolia?

kennyadr Avatar
kennyadr:#44266642

>>44266609
The tech that is needed for interstellar travel also gives us the ability to build a dyson swarm.

tereshenkov Avatar
tereshenkov:#44266650

>>44266587
I vote the worlds population all live in one city as dense as Paris,and then we detonate all our nukes on it.

kriegs Avatar
kriegs:#44266700

How much of the land on Earth is actually used? How much would be used, if we built farms, roads and houses in skyscraper-tall stacks? How much if we also built underground? There's room for trillions of people just on this planet, and for trillions more in the rest of the Solar system. And finally you could just mine all the planetary material and built artificial habitats out of it.

craighenneberry Avatar
craighenneberry:#44266732

>>44266700
Nobody wants to live in a human be hive,we aren't insects. We want our own large house with a large yard acres big maybe.

hoangloi Avatar
hoangloi:#44266798

>>44266700
All biosphere (soils, forests and oceans) can feed with most efficiency about 12 billions humans. That means if there would be more people the nature wouldn't be able to restore itself.
But we also need to have some nature contaminated and some biosphere consumed for industry, to we be civilized. That made the max limit lower.
Even now we haven't enough time to the soils restoration and we are closing to limit of the forests restoration.

So, little more curry-niggers, chinks, niggers and muslims and we would have to choose who we must kill. And if we kill all whites there wold be of no helps.

rahmeen Avatar
rahmeen:#44266821

>>44266732
The limiting factor for the population is waste heat, not space.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqKQ94DtS54

i3tef Avatar
i3tef:#44266864

>>44266798
Farming can be done artificially, all of it, without use of natural soils. We have technology for that even now, it just makes no economic sense. You could even synthesize nutrients directly, theoretically.
>>44266821
This episode illustrates the concept better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAJeYe-abUA

mugukamil Avatar
mugukamil:#44266877

Venus would be ok if we'd nuclear bomb it to shit and then find a way to somehow get rid of radiation.

chaabane_wail Avatar
chaabane_wail:#44266880

>>44266732
Westerners maybe, but slavs and asians seem to be content living in their human hives.

RussellBishop Avatar
RussellBishop:#44266885

>>44266864
The Ecumenopolis episode references quite a lot of stuff from the Arcologies video.

suprb Avatar
suprb:#44266959

Roosters are occupying and not using huge amount of clay. Just kill those retards and you get fucktons of clay.

p_kosov Avatar
p_kosov:#44266964

>>44266609
Lol nope

We are starting to land on Moon and Mars this century. Stable colonization next century, and other planest too in the following centuries.

But we have shit for energy for longer travels. Even now we stuggle to get a small satellite somewhere further away than Mars. We need at least type 1 cilivization to get enough energy to do anything on larger scale.

Then we might start to think interstellar travel. It's true that we might send some probes to other stars in following centuries, but they will also take hundreds of years to reach them. Interstellar travel of humans is not going to happen during this millenium. Maybe next.

arashmanteghi Avatar
arashmanteghi:#44266966

>>44266864
For that we need concentrated chemicals and breed needed strains of bacteria.
It's alike of case of synthetic clothing which eventually contaminated environment even more than 'hideous' 'bloody-skin wearing'.
If we became at fullest make food on artificial soils we kill the planet's biosphere even quicker.
Second Principe of Thermodynamic extended not only on dynamic bun on systems of highest periods efficiency either.

herrhaase Avatar
herrhaase:#44266991

There's plenty of clay, too many people.

linux29 Avatar
linux29:#44267010

>>44266821
It doesn't matter what the limiting factor is. We already have too many people. Whats the point of 8 billion people?We should probably never go over a billion or even 500 million.

chanpory Avatar
chanpory:#44267014

>>44266609
>interstellar travel
How low IQ are you retards? We might be able to go 10% of the speed of light within the next 100 years but going faster than that is unlikely.

roybarberuk Avatar
roybarberuk:#44267022

>>44267010
We need people to build our shitty goods. Once we have robots good enough to do all of those things the governments will begin secretly sterilizing populations, don't worry the government hates you.

keyuri85 Avatar
keyuri85:#44267037

>>44267014
We're gonna bend the space.

smaczny Avatar
smaczny:#44267041

>>44267022
And why they don't sterilize niggers now?

adammarsbar Avatar
adammarsbar:#44267057

>>44267041
You mean western governments? Because they're decaying monstrosities. They'll be gone within this century. Our Chinese Cyborg Overlords will be the single government of humanity.

antongenkin Avatar
antongenkin:#44267064

>>44267014
>We might be able to go 10% of the speed of light
Which is enough if we are able to vastly expand lifespans or build Multi-Generation-Ships.

ovall Avatar
ovall:#44267070

If we harvested Mars rock to make habitable space stations or whatever would it ruin is orbit and send it flying off?

sava2500 Avatar
sava2500:#44267079

>>44267010
>Whats the point of 8 billion people?
More people = more people writing about the industrial output of the Ottoman Empire.
Also more scientists and musicians and shit

herkulano Avatar
herkulano:#44267081

>>44266531
Space habitats arranged in a Dyson swarm will have orders of magnitude more livable area than a mere Earth.

subburam Avatar
subburam:#44267088

>>44267070
Using rocks that are already in space (e.g. the asteroid belt) is a better approach.

ggavrilo Avatar
ggavrilo:#44267094

>>44266609
Interstellar generational ships are possible with current tech, but are utterly expensive and nobody bothers.

mbilderbach Avatar
mbilderbach:#44267098

>>44266991
This isn't even fedora tipping,it's a fact.

>>44267014
We are talking about a long time in the future thousands of years. So maybe they have cryonics
or some other form of hibernation that could keep people alive on the long trip. The closest star is only 4 light years away, many stars are relatively close by.

langate Avatar
langate:#44267112

The USA can always declare war on the planet Jupiter until it agrees to adopt democracy and become inhabitable to human life.

syntetyc Avatar
syntetyc:#44267118

>>44267010
Every malthusian should kill himself. That's in line with their philosophy anyway.

armcivor Avatar
armcivor:#44267124

>>44267098
>cryonics
Having cryonics is basically the same tech as expending lifespans indefinitely. So if you have cryonics, you don't really need it.

terpimost Avatar
terpimost:#44267131

In this thread:
>wotating habitats and miwwows

irsouza Avatar
irsouza:#44267135

>>44267098
Cryogenics would not work. None of the materials we have or will likely have even 100 years from now will withstand thousands of years of cosmic radiation without needing repair and maintenance.

bouyghajden Avatar
bouyghajden:#44267149

>>44267131

n1ght_coder Avatar
n1ght_coder:#44267188

>>44267079
RRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Don't make me kill you bernd,I don't want to do it!But you're leaving me no choice!!!

BillSKenney Avatar
BillSKenney:#44267190

>>44267135
If you have the ability to repair all damage to a human body and reboot the brain (which is needed for cryogenics), you can use the same tech to just expand the lifespan indefinitely.

souperphly Avatar
souperphly:#44267192

>>44267149
Every Christmas is like Thursday.

nehemiasec Avatar
nehemiasec:#44267250

>>44267135
No point in worrying about a problem like that when we haven't even left Earth yet. We could spend thousands of years just working on Mars and that's the easiest planet to put people on.

*I guess the Moon would be the easiest but nobody wants to live on the moon.

joshuapekera Avatar
joshuapekera:#44267290

>>44267250
Again, building habitats in space is much easier than to colonize a planet. There is nothing valuable on Mars. We don't even know if Mars' gravity is strong enough for humans to live there.

chatyrko Avatar
chatyrko:#44267300

>>44267290
But they'll drop the colonies on Earth and we don't have gundams to stop them.

davidcazalis Avatar
davidcazalis:#44267394

>>44267290
>Breaking News 70 million people died when their giant coke bottle broke down.

>a kebab blew himself up and vented everyone into space

>There is nothing valuable on Mars

What kind of statement is that, of course there is.

>We don't even know if Mars' gravity is strong enough for humans to live there.

It's close enough,I guess we'll find out.

jpotts18 Avatar
jpotts18:#44267427

>>44267394
>Breaking News 70 million people died when their giant coke bottle broke down.
Who cares if you have a trillion humans orbiting the sun. Coke cans are gonna be new school shootings.

hibrahimsafak Avatar
hibrahimsafak:#44267443

>>44267394
>a kebab blew himself up and vented everyone into space
You have the same problem on Mars.
And you need a fucking huge hole to vent everyone in space.

>Breaking News 70 million people died when their giant coke bottle broke down.
Same problem on Mars

>of course there is.
Like what? Also, everything on Mars lies in a huge gravity well.

>It's close enough
Says who? Elon Musk?

a_harris88 Avatar
a_harris88:#44267449

Solution: don't take kebabs with you to space.

sokaniwaal Avatar
sokaniwaal:#44267671

>>44267394
Also Mars is completely covered in radioactive dust.

So life is possible only in tunnels. But we can live in tunnels on earth and many orders of magnitude cheaper, even in case of a major disaster that renders the surface uninhabitable.

Basically we rolled a solar system that's not much good for anything. We don't really have a stepping stone between orbital stations and interstellar travel.

kinday Avatar
kinday:#44267690

>>44267671
> Basically we rolled a solar system that's not much good for anything.

We have rolled the only system that to our current knowledge contains intelligent life.

joemdesign Avatar
joemdesign:#44267715

>>44267690
And what system is that?

pehamondello Avatar
pehamondello:#44267740

>>44267690
Any system we might have rolled would have contained intelligent life in the form of us

That's like saying everyone is super lucky because their daddy's sperm found an egg unlike millions that didn't

lisakey1986 Avatar
lisakey1986:#44267741

Vênus isn't being there is it

pjnes Avatar
pjnes:#44267786

>>44267715
A system with a star small enough to not burn too fast, but big enough that the habitable zone is far enough away from the worst impacts of solar wind. Also, a star that is freakishly stable with little to no flares.
A system far away from the hot galactic center.
A system with enough heavy elements to form rocky planets.
A system with multiple planets on stable orbits.
A system without a hot Jupiter, but a system with a cold Jupiter that deflects most asteroids. A planet with a moon that stabilizes our orbit. A planet with enough gravity to trap enough water and atmosphere, but not too heavy to trap too much water that would cover the whole planet. A planet with a magnetosphere. A planet with plate tectonics, so the land does not get completely eroded.
Etc.

horaciobella Avatar
horaciobella:#44267802

>>44267740
>That's like saying everyone is super lucky because their daddy's sperm found an egg unlike millions that didn't

No, it is like saying that we got super lucky because our sperm found an egg while all other sperms would have been cripples and died.

vikashpathak18 Avatar
vikashpathak18:#44267863

>>44267443
>You have the same problem on Mars.

No you don't, Mars structures don't have to all be connected together.

>Same problem on Mars
No Mars would be getting constant resupplies from Earth until it's big enough to be permanently self sufficient.

>Like what?
It could be terraformed to be just like Earth over enough time.

>Says who? Elon Musk?

No body knows for sure,living there will be the only way to find out. People know this and are willing to try anyway because they believe it will be fine.

Anyway I don't see why you are so against it.People are really working on going to Mars now,nobody is working on building space habitats.

oanacr Avatar
oanacr:#44267982

>>44267863
> No you don't, Mars structures don't have to all be connected together.
What has that to do with anything? Why do you think rotating habitats have to be connected? You could build millions of these things.

>No Mars would be getting constant resupplies from Earth until it's big enough to be permanently self sufficient.
Again, what? Why can't the habitats not be resupplied? Which could also be way closer to Earth?

>It could be terraformed to be just like Earth over enough time.

Do you have any idea how much resources, time and energy you need to even terraform a small portion of mars? Even with thousands of spaceships that would dwarf the biggest ships on earth you would need thousands of years to bring in even a small amount of the resources you need to terraform Mars.
If you have this huge armada of freakin gigantic ships and the ludicrous amount of power, why not just live on the ships?

>living there will be the only way to find out.
IQ89. Having a rotating habitat would be the ideal way to find it out.

>People are really working on going to Mars now, nobody is working on building space habitats.
Because people like you underestimate the challenges of terraforming. And no, there are a few concepts for rotating habitats.
Terraforming would be a huge task even for a K1.5-Civ.

I am not saying that we will never terraform Mars, but i am sure as hell that the majority of people live in rotating habitats before we even start the task.

rcass Avatar
rcass:#44267999

>>44267982
And as always, there are excellent videos by Isaac Arthur on terraforming and colonizing Mars:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikoNQNj9ZnU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmFOBoy2MZ8

johnriordan Avatar
johnriordan:#44268126

ITT: People who haven't watched enough Isaac Arthur

You people are not KC tier and you will never be KC tier. Go lick a hookers minge or something.

adriancogliano Avatar
adriancogliano:#44268194

>>44268126
>ITT: People who haven't watched enough Isaac Arthur
I certainly feel like it, is there a secret stash of additional videos besides his channel so I can watch enough videos?

clubb3rry Avatar
clubb3rry:#44268247

>>44268194
Just watch from the beginning again, miniscule brains cannot properly absorb all the KC tier information in one simple viewing.

safrankov Avatar
safrankov:#44268259

>>44268194
>>44268247
Also, spend fridays to wednesdays playing Kerbal Space Program while waiting to watch the new episode 15 times in a row.

oskamaya Avatar
oskamaya:#44268261

>>44268247
A wise advise, I'll get me some snacks and coffee too.

trueblood_33 Avatar
trueblood_33:#44268278

>>44268259
I prefer to read Alastair Reynolds instead, then I'll start the Foundation.

iqbalperkasa Avatar
iqbalperkasa:#44268332

When some guy thinks we should hurry up and start to ruin another planet before we ruin this planet.

yassiryahya Avatar
yassiryahya:#44268776

>>44268332
> ruin another planet
How to ruin mars? It is completely inhabitable. There is literally nothing we can do to make it worse.